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I am on PS5 doing a Dark Urge play through, didn't have any relations with Karlach at all, banged Minthara after the Druid raid, talked dirty to her in the Astral Plane in Act II, now that I am on my way to act III Minthara won't give me the time of day because Karlach the Horny appearently had conversations with everyone saying we were an itema nd we weren't in any way., How do you go from Minthara wanting to be your soul mate in one scene and without any interaction at all with anyone else hating you because Karlach needs to be touched EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T TOUCH HER!!!

Is this some bug? Can I reset this somehow?

Karlach, ruining the game in every way, yet again!

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To avoid those bugs from happening its best to Not Bring her in your Game if yu dont want any stuff like that..
(just kill her in act 1 and take the best armor for wyll.)
But be carefull Wyll has this Same Bug..

i Never ever will bring her again since the 2 first games i made becouse she actually turn my game in the worst experience i ever had..
i encounter so many bugs with her in the game that when i start to avoid her my game runs ok.
i just start to avoid Wyll too becouse since he has a lot of stuff mixed with her.. he cant scape the Game Braking Bugs too.

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Karlach has never ruined the game. The Karlach hate is not appreciated. Frankly it sounds like a bug. And there is absolutely no way Karlach went around to all of the other companions lying about you having sex with her. That just did not happen. I’m sure that Larian would appreciate it if you reported the bug to them.

As to how you can fix it, I mean, the only thing I can think of is restarting from an earlier point in your save. Hopefully other folks can chime in as to whether they are also having this issue. But again, hating on Karlach’s character over what is clearly a bug is not fair or helpful.

Edit: maybe if you went back to an earlier save, and then killed Karlach, it could fix it for you, who knows. Seems like a viable option.

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Best Option its to Always just avoid the charecters yu dont like or yu have Bad experience with.
(yu dont really need all Origins to Beat the Game..)
yu can even beat the game without any of then.. solo or with a Party just with Hirelings.
(i just made that in my last 2 games.. becouse all of origins are bugged in some way or form.)

the only bad part of playing without any Origin its that the Exploring will feel empty becouse will have no Banthers.. but when yu play so much like me that dosent matter anymore..
yu just want to Play the shit without Bugs.
thats all i want from this Game nowadays..
Just to Give One Last Shot and put hin down for good without Bugs to anoying my head.

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Originally Posted by Ecc2ca
Karlach has never ruined the game. The Karlach hate is not appreciated. Frankly it sounds like a bug. And there is absolutely no way Karlach went around to all of the other companions lying about you having sex with her. That just did not happen. I’m sure that Larian would appreciate it if you reported the bug to them.

As to how you can fix it, I mean, the only thing I can think of is restarting from an earlier point in your save. Hopefully other folks can chime in as to whether they are also having this issue. But again, hating on Karlach’s character over what is clearly a bug is not fair or helpful.

Edit: maybe if you went back to an earlier save, and then killed Karlach, it could fix it for you, who knows. Seems like a viable option.
Karlach is a goody goody who doesn't approve of anything you do unless it is getting in her pants. I ignored her on my first play through, mainly because I didn't find her until the eend of act I, and on my second I wanted her, Wull, Minthara and Astrion, but upon reaching ActII I screwed something up and Minthara wasn't there so I started a new Dark Urge, killed Wyll and Karlach so I could raid the druid temple, then slept with Minthara and then Ressuracted Wyll and Karlach, and then somewhere a chain of something happened because now everyone thinks I boned Karlach and I can't even do that because all the tieflings are dead and she'll burn people...so frustrating...also, the slayer form sucks, even after patch 4!

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Originally Posted by Thorvic
Best Option its to Always just avoid the charecters yu dont like or yu have Bad experience with.
(yu dont really need all Origins to Beat the Game..)
yu can even beat the game without any of then.. solo or with a Party just with Hirelings.
(i just made that in my last 2 games.. becouse all of origins are bugged in some way or form.)

the only bad part of playing without any Origin its that the Exploring will feel empty becouse will have no Banthers.. but when yu play so much like me that dosent matter anymore..
yu just want to Play the shit without Bugs.
thats all i want from this Game nowadays..
Just to Give One Last Shot and put hin down for good without Bugs to anoying my head.
I tried just hierlings, right before patch 4, I hated it, to generic. I like the banter from the NPCs.

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"killed Wyll and Karlach so I could raid the druid temple, then slept with Minthara and then Ressuracted Wyll and Karlach"
thats what coused the Bug bro.
If yu go Dark in this Game forget then its not worth the trouble.. trust me.
(the Best Companions for a Dark Game its Astarion, Shadow, Lae'zel, Gale and Minthara.. yu dont need the Rest for a Dark Game unless yu want to have your balls cut of when yu face Jaheira..thats kinda really cool indeed)

i Already Saw a Bunch of People Having Problems in the Game becouse they Forced they Both in a Dark Path Game..
its the Same when yu Force the Sheetara Bug and Bring her in a Hero Game.. she will broke evrything.
(becouse the game was not made to be played this way.)

there are some new rumors running around that this will change and they will gave Minthara so yu can Choose her instead of Halsin in a Good Hero Play..
(but i really dont know how they will pull this one out..)

and this Same Bug yu Mentioned Happens to Wyll too..
already saw some Reddit about.. its the Same Stuff.
people never had anything with hin.. and the dude says to evrybody yu are his boyfriend/girfriend and yu even get dumped by your original Relationship.
Since Karlach and Wyll have a Lot of Mixed Stuff in there Tail.. like i Said.. he Cannot Scape the Bugs.
(best to Just avoid then both untill Larian actually do something and fix this stuff.)

in my first two runs i bring all of then and Karlach especially Broke my Game Really hard in Many Places..
Since then i just avoid then Both.. its better.

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This is slightly off topic but it involves Minthara romance and conflict. Nothing to do with Karlach.

In my first Durge playthru as a necro drow small female I decided to romance Astarion, sacked him before the raid, then sacked Minthara after the raid. Fast forward, in act 3 I finally got Minthara's dialogue for romance, and this is right before Durge dream of Orin. I tried preemptively breaking up with Astarion and tried the replacing him route to hook up with Minthara. Both times, I long rest, have my dream, talk to Minthara, nothing special, exit dialogue, talk to Minthara again. "You dare speak to me after sharing a bed with another." Dialogue ends. Wtf?

Anyone ever have this happen?


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I had never a problem with Karlach. In the first act,she has that talk with you at night and when you just tell her, you' re not interested, she doesn't assume to be in a romance with me.
It sounds like your work around to get all companions in a playthrough might have break your game a bit.

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Sounds to me like you broke your game with some mod or you encountered a bug. Has nothing to do with Karlach.

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Okay, I made a video for it. You can see the choices and the links are broken.


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I'm on console, I can't use mods

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Originally Posted by SoloBAMF Gaming
I'm on console, I can't use mods
No, but you said, that you killed Wyll and Karlach, raided the grove, had the goblin party and then resurrected Wyll and Karlach, that is a workaround, that is not really intended, so my guess and that of some of the others was that the problems in your playthrough came from that.
So saying, you hate Karlach, when she is probably broken by you cheesing an outcome, is at least a bit unfair.
Karlachs behaviour is normally that you have a talk with her in act 1 and if you tell her, you're not interested, she leaves you alone.


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The Bug yu Reported its happening becouse yu Romanced more then one..
This game Cant Handle Pretty well Many Relationships Get it ?
(they put that in the Game but it was a Big NO.NO.)
thats why Have So Many Bugs in this Style..
The Best Option to Totally avoid this from Happening is to Only Go with the One yu Trully Want..
(Want to F. another one ? go with the Drow on Sharess Caress or the Driad in Second Floor or the Demon from Wyll but even Her could couse yu Trouble depending on your Romance..)
yu can Bang Harlep too without Problems..

Like i Said.. want to Be Safe. Just Romance One, the One yu Like the Most.. F. the Rest.
(and another Advice Dont Waste Time beeing Nice and Cool with the companions yu dont want to Romane.. this too could couse yu some Trouble..)
yu can Talk to Then and Try your Best to Keep then in the Friend Zone.
(if they Go up on aproval too much this will F. yu at some point)
Gale and Halsin are Notorius for this..
(They will want yu to Bang then Non Stop to the F. end of the Game even if yu REfuse 300 times.)

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Originally Posted by fylimar
Originally Posted by SoloBAMF Gaming
I'm on console, I can't use mods
No, but you said, that you killed Wyll and Karlach, raided the grove, had the goblin party and then resurrected Wyll and Karlach, that is a workaround, that is not really intended, so my guess and that of some of the others was that the problems in your playthrough came from that.
So saying, you hate Karlach, when she is probably broken by you cheesing an outcome, is at least a bit unfair.
Karlachs behaviour is normally that you have a talk with her in act 1 and if you tell her, you're not interested, she leaves you alone.

This is your answer. Play how you want, you aren't hurting anyone, but you specifically used a work around to prevent Wyll and Karlach from leaving your group when you knew they're supposed to for attacking the Grove. You bugged the game out and you're complaining about how it behaves because of that. Come on.

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Hating Karlach is an immediate game over

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Originally Posted by Myhthreindeer
Hating Karlach is an immediate game over
she 2 phat n ugly

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Originally Posted by Vua
Originally Posted by fylimar
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I'm on console, I can't use mods
No, but you said, that you killed Wyll and Karlach, raided the grove, had the goblin party and then resurrected Wyll and Karlach, that is a workaround, that is not really intended, so my guess and that of some of the others was that the problems in your playthrough came from that.
So saying, you hate Karlach, when she is probably broken by you cheesing an outcome, is at least a bit unfair.
Karlachs behaviour is normally that you have a talk with her in act 1 and if you tell her, you're not interested, she leaves you alone.

This is your answer. Play how you want, you aren't hurting anyone, but you specifically used a work around to prevent Wyll and Karlach from leaving your group when you knew they're supposed to for attacking the Grove. You bugged the game out and you're complaining about how it behaves because of that. Come on.
No, I didn't, you quoted the wrong person. I said basically the same as you. You wanted to quote op, not me.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
Originally Posted by Vua
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Originally Posted by SoloBAMF Gaming
I'm on console, I can't use mods
No, but you said, that you killed Wyll and Karlach, raided the grove, had the goblin party and then resurrected Wyll and Karlach, that is a workaround, that is not really intended, so my guess and that of some of the others was that the problems in your playthrough came from that.
So saying, you hate Karlach, when she is probably broken by you cheesing an outcome, is at least a bit unfair.
Karlachs behaviour is normally that you have a talk with her in act 1 and if you tell her, you're not interested, she leaves you alone.

This is your answer. Play how you want, you aren't hurting anyone, but you specifically used a work around to prevent Wyll and Karlach from leaving your group when you knew they're supposed to for attacking the Grove. You bugged the game out and you're complaining about how it behaves because of that. Come on.
No, I didn't, you quoted the wrong person. I said basically the same as you. You wanted to quote op, not me.

I'm quoting you because you provided the correct answer, though the reply itself was not meant for you. When I said this is your answer, i meant your reply was that answer. On another forum I would have double quoted, but some days I'm lucky this site functions on my phone. At least at work where I can't use the wifi since it blocks sites like this. Sorry for any confusion.

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Originally Posted by Thorvic
The Bug yu Reported its happening becouse yu Romanced more then one..
This game Cant Handle Pretty well Many Relationships Get it ?
(they put that in the Game but it was a Big NO.NO.)
thats why Have So Many Bugs in this Style..
The Best Option to Totally avoid this from Happening is to Only Go with the One yu Trully Want..
(Want to F. another one ? go with the Drow on Sharess Caress or the Driad in Second Floor or the Demon from Wyll but even Her could couse yu Trouble depending on your Romance..)
yu can Bang Harlep too without Problems..

Like i Said.. want to Be Safe. Just Romance One, the One yu Like the Most.. F. the Rest.
(and another Advice Dont Waste Time beeing Nice and Cool with the companions yu dont want to Romane.. this too could couse yu some Trouble..)
yu can Talk to Then and Try your Best to Keep then in the Friend Zone.
(if they Go up on aproval too much this will F. yu at some point)
Gale and Halsin are Notorius for this..
(They will want yu to Bang then Non Stop to the F. end of the Game even if yu REfuse 300 times.)
Okay, I suffered through going back to Act I, flat out had Wyll and Karlach alive so they would leave the party when I attacked the Druid Grove, both dead before Minthara even looked at me funny, and while she was not accusing me of crap before the end of Act II, as soon as we got to Act III she gives me the same, "You're bold to talk to me after seeking another," crap line so something isn't playing right in her tree.


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