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Originally Posted by karkulizin
Strange Ox can help you in final battle. But you need to not forget to pick the apple to get it behind walls. (Like I did)
I went one better - I had a twitchy finger over the space bar and completly missed the apple laugh

Also - I want to reruit and romance the Strange Ox! He more interesting, so deep and tragic than Nere or Halsin. Or Astarion. And Not!Elf.

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He who was is infected with the Shadowcurse,which means, that he is doomed. There doesn't seem to be a cure.
I did understand this as the reason he did go against the Ravenqueens order. When you kill him, you find a letter from a fellow Shaddar Kai expressing concern for his condition.
Of course trying to save him could be a questline.

I could also see Roah Moonglow as an evil companion. Since she is a bard, that would fill out a class slot, that isn't already taken, if Tav isn't a bard. As a Zhentarim her recruitment could be tied to how one I reacts in the missing shipment quest and you of course have to destroy Nine Fingers guild.

Then there is Yurgir, who is very much balanced, when he joins you as an ally later on.


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I also understand it to mean that he is affected by the Shadow Curse and therefore no longer serves the Raven Queen and has also developed his penchant for cruelty. A quest line to free him from the curse and then he enters as a companion to the Durge, the Durge support this with rising both hands + the hands he founded by chance.

Roah Moonglow would be a possibility for a halfling villain and a good possibility for the continuation of the Lost Cargo quest. Would probably also suit the Durge if he wanted to betray Jaheira and Minsc.


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Yurgir is your ally in final battle if you helped him and got rid of Raphael. He also has unfinished bussines with Raphael. Tav would recruit him basicly at the end of the game during act3.

I always thought about Roah as of somebody who should aid us in final battle if we were to helo her with Nine Fingers. Would be nice to have bard, but story wise having whiny halfling in your camp doesn't seem as interesting - I might be wrong about this, but all she could offer is jokes about her hight. Question is, would she join in act 2, or act 3 like Minsc, leaving no real time to get to know her.



I get Nere is second Drow, and yet another character with pointy ears. (most characters have pointy ears; half-orc, goblin, tiefling, even hags). But him being Drow male could lead to tension with Minthara. Which could lead to Minthara be even more mad at Tav. - Forcing Tav to a) manage them or b) get rid of one of them.
Him being quite naive and and easily manipulated with option to be told to not follow the Absolute makes it easy for Tav tosuggest him to join your crew. He also has inside knowledge about Moonrise Towers and from his desire to replace Balthazar we know he is quite ambitious.
And the game already acts as if saving Nere was truly important.

+ as I already mentioned, he is basicly already ready to go. His loot is two sword with dagger, necklase, ring, musical instrument, moonlantern, boots. His camp clothes could be the Absolute Outfit as who else would wear that hideous thing. And Robe of the Cult of the Absolute was already datamied, so it most likely should fit Tav if Tav chose to wear Nere's stuff.

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Originally Posted by Sini
also developed his penchant for cruelty.
He is a Drow, there was nothing to develop. He was born cruel ...

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Originally Posted by Buba68
He is a Drow, there was nothing to develop. He was born cruel ...

Shadar Kai are cold and indifferent as they collect mementos for the Raven Queen. "He who was" has escaped the influence of the Raven Queen through the shadow curse and is now torturing the dead souls for his own pleasure. As a Shadar Kai, it doesn't matter whether he was a Drow at some point.


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Originally Posted by Buba68
Originally Posted by Sini
also developed his penchant for cruelty.
He is a Drow, there was nothing to develop. He was born cruel ...
Shadar Kai were never drow though. And they are more gloomy than evil. Think of them as emo elves grin


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He looked like a Drow, hence I labelled Nere as a Drow. So is an Emo Elf? Fitting, I suppose ...

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Originally Posted by Buba68
He looked like a Drow, hence I labelled Nere as a Drow. So is an Emo Elf? Fitting, I suppose ...

Nere is drow. "He Who Was" (Shadar Kai) is a different guy. One has fancy clothes and love the Absolute, the other looks like he woke up the day after rock concert.
Drows are more like goth elf.

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Originally Posted by Buba68
He looked like a Drow, hence I labelled Nere as a Drow. So is an Emo Elf? Fitting, I suppose ...

No, I meant He who was - sorry. Nere is a drow.


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I see a lot of potential in Nere as a companion. I've always wished he could be recruited. Had been holding out hope to get a mod for it. But would love to see it in the actual game as a party member.

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