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Maccoc #875620 06/08/23 08:54 PM
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Sorry for getting this post again....but....WHY NOT????

Absolutely amazing game!!!!!!!!!!!

Go BG3, go!!!!

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It'll probably be my goty but thats largely because I dont give a crap about the others.

FF16 was ruined the moment they went real time and told fans they dudnt want our money do I obliged. As anti dnd/bg laruan has shown themselves, they never went that far.

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I don't understand why people care what media sites thing about games. Is it YOUR goty? Great. Enjoy it!

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Originally Posted by Maccoc
Sorry for getting this post again....but....WHY NOT????

Absolutely amazing game!!!!!!!!!!!

Go BG3, go!!!!
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Originally Posted by Boblawblah
I don't understand why people care what media sites thing about games. Is it YOUR goty? Great. Enjoy it!
More media cycle —> More notoriety —> More sales and longevity —> Game put on pedestal —> More games like this one.


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Originally Posted by Boblawblah
I don't understand why people care what media sites thing about games. Is it YOUR goty? Great. Enjoy it!

Like, 70%? this... No argument at all that what you say is perfectly true, but at the same time it's a nice feeling to see one's preferences appreciated broadly

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I like CRPG a lot. This game is very good; i'm not sure I would love this one or BG2 or pathfinder wrath of the righteous more.

But on the other hand, from the games I played this year, there is Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, which is some kind of revolution of Breath of the wild on the one hand, and of its genre on the other. And Breath of the wild was already a revolution in the genre.

So, I'm totally for this game to win "best RPG of the year" because I don't see any other one get it (maybe starfield would but I'm not hyped nor interested as for now for starfield), but game of the year of the "mainstream" medias? no. That would rather be the zelda game. But GOTY for rpg- media, why not. That would be good. But it depends a lot of starfield acclaim because even if it's not a crpg, it's still is a rpg.

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Originally Posted by Maccoc
Sorry for getting this post again....but....WHY NOT????

Absolutely amazing game!!!!!!!!!!!

Go BG3, go!!!!
HELL YEAH!

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah
I don't understand why people care what media sites thing about games. Is it YOUR goty? Great. Enjoy it!
More media cycle —> More notoriety —> More sales and longevity —> Game put on pedestal —> More games like this one.

+1

with this reception, how can they not do more like this?

this game is unbelievably good. i mean, i loved early access, but this is just getting better and better. some of the scenes are mind blowingly good, i don't even know where to begin. there is passion and heart at the center of this game, i can feel it in the moments

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Even though I previously said I don’t think this game has a chance against Zelda, I was not expecting the reception to BG3 to take off like it has. Lots of people are loving what this game offers and it has really been catapulted into the realm of a gaming cultural phenomenon, just like Zelda.

So maybe it will win. It is a dark horse candidate with an outside chance, but I’d no longer say no chance at all.

I don’t think Diablo 4 or FF16 are a threat. They didn’t have the cultural phenomenon feeling of Zelda or BG3. Starfield is an unknown element. I don’t have very high hopes for it, but I’d love to be proven wrong.

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So....BG3 was nominated for GOTY in the Game Awards. Winning the Golden Joystick Award.....I wasn't too far off track

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And I was right about FF16, Diablo 4 and Starfield all being overlooked for nominations, rightfully so. XD

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...sadly the 'notoriety and sales' mean that BG3 will likely serve as a template for future D&D games, which may not be good news for everyone, especially if you had significant issues with their realization of BG3 as a particular kind of game with a complex and long history behind it. There are several aspects of Larian games I dislike, and I was not that happy that they were the ones to do BG3...now I have to face the prospect of them being the company holding up BG/Faerun/D&D flag going into the future. Doesn't fill me with joy. Wotc will follow the money of course - they have shown their absolute venality over the years - so other smaller devs will likely be sidelined in favor of D&D 'mega projects' like this. They'll keep replicating their 'unique' style of gameplay and design, which while fun once or twice (like DOS1/2) - ** for their own IP** - is not something I want outside of the Divinity franchise in D&D and not in something like Faerun.

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Way back in the beginning of the year, WotC scrapped 5 unannounced games that were planned or in the works.


It’s not BG3’s fault you aren’t getting non-Larian style games. That was a forgone conclusion long before BG3’s success.

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I'd love there to be a Ravenloft (and Ravenloft-style) game also, just modernized.
However, WOTC have pretty much released zero games in like almost twenty years full-stop. It's almost as if they were afraid that this meant less players for the tabletop (which was an expression voiced back then, on the occasion. At least by some computer RPGs were seen as a competition to the table top, despite their social component naturally being "lesser", in particular single-player).

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...sadly the 'notoriety and sales' mean that BG3 will likely serve as a template for future D&D games, which may not be good news for everyone, especially if you had significant issues with their realization of BG3 as a particular kind of game with a complex and long history behind it. There are several aspects of Larian games I dislike, and I was not that happy that they were the ones to do BG3...now I have to face the prospect of them being the company holding up BG/Faerun/D&D flag going into the future. Doesn't fill me with joy. Wotc will follow the money of course - they have shown their absolute venality over the years - so other smaller devs will likely be sidelined in favor of D&D 'mega projects' like this. They'll keep replicating their 'unique' style of gameplay and design, which while fun once or twice (like DOS1/2) - ** for their own IP** - is not something I want outside of the Divinity franchise in D&D and not in something like Faerun.



Even if that were the case (which I doubt), it can't be as bad as the influence Bioware had for like twenty years. I mean, a company and corporation behind that even considered the likes of Kotor or DA Origins to be "too" crunchy/nerdy/niche/not "Streamlined" enough didn't do any good, surely. https://rampantgames.com/blog/?p=3245

I don't think BG3 is a template to follow -- not even by Larian themselves, which they also seemed to have noted in their expression to make a smaller title next. In particular if it's coupled with cinematics for everything. That's just not sustainable, also in the long run. The quest designer/s at CD Projekt have argued similar earlier this year -- and their games alongside to character customization and quest design isn't near as open. E.g. their cinematics need to cover far less permutations and branches throughout the entire games.

https://www.pcgamer.com/were-runnin...-lead-quest-designer-on-big-budget-rpgs/

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I have no qualms with BG3 winning this, and they'll deserve it, too. I haven't played anything this year that I enjoy or am impressed by as much as I did with BG3. At least, none that came out this year.

I can list things I don't really like about this game for certain:
The main story is all over the place and not very gripping at that.
There's no more choice and consequence past Act 1.
The emphasis on woke representation and all that. Just doesn't jive with me.

But none of these things warrant a not-game-of-the-year and with all the hype that its gotten, it's kind of hard for whatever committee to argue Starfield or something should win this. I'm not exactly sure if it deserves *all* the praise it has received, but it's really, really good and easily the best game out this year.


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Hohohoho

Premonition.

Well deserved Larian

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