He doesn't have to mention Mizora by name to be complaining about her.
He starts off ranting about how he needs to kill Karlach. Then mention about how something will happen soon after you meet her.
He mentions Karlach
once in the grove, because that was his intro to the game, and why he was captured. I don't remember him even mentioning Karlach again when you talk to him, until you meet her. Unlike how
she keeps mentioning Anders and the Oathbreakers until you kill them.
Mizora will show up and he'll complain about his pact. He'll complain about his pact in Act 2 when Mizora shows up again (Regardless of if he was there when she appeared or not) and will keep complaining about her.
He mentions her once immediately after her appearance, because there's a literal mission associated with her. Twice, when you first enter the lair where the mission takes place, if he's in the party.
He mentions his father after saving Councillor Florrick, he'll mention him again if you read a particular letter in the Mountain Pass, and again after the ending of Act 2.
Ya...because he's tadpoled and is a puppet. And he's also important to the story. So naturally his own concerned son would mention him.
Meanwhile, he's supposed to be a hero of the people and much of his dialogue is him complaining about his own life (And the entirety of his in-camp prompted dialogue).
Talking to him more, he'll express that he doesn't regret his decision to get the pact because of how it has allowed him to help people. But then spends the rest of the time complaining about his pact and Mizora. His concern lies not in what he can do to help others but more so how evil Mizora is and how it's imperetive that his father be rescued.
I'm wondering if you're adding your own head canon dialogue, because this is either REALLY reaching/misinterpreting everything he actually says or you're just making things up completely.
That's what grates me about him.
He's supposed to be the Blade of Frontiers, carrying the burden that is his pact and its consequences but making the most of it to help others. Yet what we get is a self pitying loser.
Ok, so it's actually
both "reaching" and "making things up."
I wanted to see someone trying to do good in the world despite his problems, someone gifted with incredible power using it to help everyone he can. You know, someone like the PC during a Good run.
Astarion is unlikable, but it's understandable as to why he's unlikable. Centuries of enslavement and torture would probably put a downer on anyone. It also explains why he's so power hungry and willing to embrace the tadpole (That has provided him his free will back and also additional freedoms on top of that such as being unaffected by daylight).
He's pretty much what you'd expect from his character. Which is more than I can say for Wyll. I was expecting more stiff upper lip and stoicness with his vulnerabilities being revealed after getting to know him more and he can rely on you for support.
Ya, this is just cartoonish levels of bias towards Wyll. Because he literally does the first sentence.
That was his whole entire career after forming the pact and before getting captured on the Nautoloid. Trying to portay him as some whiny and mopey sad-sack is utter nonsense. Or did you forget where he was and
what he was doing in his very first scene, and in the subsequent scene when you go in the grove? Wyll is more of a paladin than most paladins. His whole theme is "
being TOO HEROIC self-sacrificing isn't always a good thing."
And Astarion being enslaved is no excuse to be a complete sociopath towards innocent people who did nothing to him. Like he often is. He also doesn't like the idea of taking the special tadpole in his dialogue.
Last edited by Mr. Oakby; 24/11/23 06:23 AM.
