Originally Posted by Mr. Oakby
I'm wondering if you're adding your own head canon dialogue, because this is either REALLY reaching/misinterpreting everything he actually says or you're just making things up completely.

He literally says that he wants you to know the Blade not the person he left behind.

He literally says he doesn't regret his pact because of all the good he's done.

What's to misinterpret?

The Blade is literally him going Batman and taking his Warlock powers and helping others.

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Ok, so it's actually both "reaching" and "making things up."

[quote]Ya, this is just cartoonish levels of bias towards Wyll. Because he literally does the first sentence. That was his whole entire career after forming the pact and before getting captured on the Nautoloid. Trying to portay him as some whiny and mopey sad-sack is utter nonsense. Or did you forget where he was and what he was doing in his very first scene, and in the subsequent scene when you go in the grove? Wyll is more of a paladin than most paladins. His whole theme is "being TOO HEROIC self-sacrificing isn't always a good thing."

Yes. That was his whole entire career. That's what he was doing in the first very first scene.

But after he joins your party? "Waaaa Mizora is mean" "Waaaa we need to rescue my father" "Waaaa I hate this pact"

That's the entire point. The entire thing about the Blade of Frontiers, how he's put forth in his first encounter is completely at odds with his in camp dialogue where almost every time you return to camp there's a new ! signalling he's complaining about his life again.

Where's his dialogue showing concern for others? Him telling you how you should help the Tieflings? How you should help the Harpers? No it's "We need to get to Moonrise to rescue my dad" and "Mizora is a meanie"

If you talk to him, he has a few other dialogues about being a Noble or how he became the Blade. But the rest of the time it's all about his dad, his pact and Mizora.

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And Astarion being enslaved is no excuse to be a complete sociopath towards innocent people who did nothing to him. Like he often is.

It's not an excuse. But its motive behind it. He was enslaved and tortured for literally centuries. His main concern is about freeing himself and avoiding being stuck back in that situation. He doesn't care about anyone else because he's extremely fixated on avoiding that fate. He's also jaded because the last time anyone helped him, was when he was turned, so naturally he's going to have a negative attitude towards others.

Again, he's not likable. But he's understandable. He's broken as a person, he's not trying to be above his circumstances, he's fully into being the jerk that fate created.

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He also doesn't like the idea of taking the special tadpole in his dialogue.

No, because that doesn't give him any more freedom. His idea is to take control over the tadpoles, that way he can control his own and others (Which is not too dissimilar to the whole "Become a true vampire" outcome)