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Joined: Nov 2023
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You completely broke Baldur's Gate 3 when you created patch 4. Once the player comes into the middle of Act 2, things start going profoundly awry. These problems are happening both on PC and PS5.
Act 2:
— The game will crash several times. — The loading screen freezes for several minutes. — Tav and / or other party members at times get stuck in fighting animations and cannot move. — Tav's party frequently lags, rubberbands, and becomes immobile for about 1 minute. — Initiating conversation with NPCs at times take several minutes to start. — Looting items at times is non-responsive for several minutes. — Once reaching The Nightsong, freezing becomes much more severe. Combat is very delayed. — Afterwards, initiating conversation with Dame Aylin can take up to 10 minutes to finally begin. — Tav's party ceases to follow through Moonrise Towers for up to 10 minutes. — Combat can take up to 5 minutes to begin.
Act 3:
— Upon entering Act 3, loading screen hangs at %67 for nearly 10 minutes. — Once in Rivington, Tav's party ceases to follow for up to 20 minutes. They begin to catch up for about 30 seconds, all to freeze again for another 20 minutes. This never resolves all throughout every area of Act 3. — NPCs walk in place for several minutes. — In some areas NPCs do not load, and are missing entirely from the area. — Initiating conversation will not start for up to 15 - 20 minutes. — Textures on Tav and party members, as well as NPCs don't fully rez, and flicker to bright white. — Unable to save and reload. — For up to 10 - 20 minutes the player is unable to switch between party members. — NPC audio stutters and stalls at times, rapidly cutting in and out — as does Borislav Slavov's beautiful score.
The entire environment of Act 3 is completely shut down and broken. It is totally impossible to play upon entering Act 3. This is a profound problem. Baldur's Gate 3, in my opinion, is hands down one of the best RPGs that has ever been created. And, listed above, are the most severe and disruptive problems I have ever experienced. I have never seen anything like this before, between the technical problems, and the profound lack of communication about it all. What's worse is that BG3 has been in this state for nearly 1 month, and upon reporting it, we're told that "it's being investigated" and nothing more. There is no mention that you are trying to fix this. BG3 is an expensive game (too expensive to play it like this) one that is still very clearly in beta testing even though you have fully released it. And you are completely silent considering the magnitude of this problem. I cannot fathom how there is no statement of acknowledgment from you. What's going on here? And how could you let this happen for this long? This is totally unacceptable considering the investment in finance, time, and energy. Please, speak up about this, and fix this ASAP!
Last edited by Syraxfyre; 24/11/23 11:54 PM.
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Joined: Dec 2020
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It's the silence that's odd; usually there's some communications. I haven't even had responses to my bug reports.
Another to add to the list in Act 3 - can't exit the game while in Act 3. I have actually had to Alt+Tab+Del and then restart my computer to get out of it.
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Joined: Oct 2023
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Actually the Game Got Broke in 3.0.. after That evry Hotfix and Patch they Release just Broke More and More.. (the best Version so Far was in Lounch and 2.0)
if yu avoid Karlach and Halsin yu would Have a Normal Game Running and would not get the Bugged Ending.. evrybody that get that ending Bugged was becouse brought all of the Companions.. if yu avoid some of then would roll Normal. (in my first Game Astarion Burned away in the Sun, Laezel went on the Dragon, Gale Send the Crown Back to mistra and i Had the Normal ending with Shadow.. since i did not help Halsin in act 2 and did not Bring Karlach i had a Normal Ending and a Normal experience.. and i did not Bring Wyll too becouse i never saw a Reason in any of my Games to Have two Locks.. i only Bring Hin when i Played as Evil Gale but he went away when i side with Goblins, so i never Get to see his ending in any game and i never bother too..)
but the Truth its like i Told.. The First Patch that Broke the entire Game was not the 4.0 was 3.0 the 4.0 just Broke Even more what was already Broken.. and in Evry Hotfix and Patch they Release Since.. always Shows up another new Bug. (something that they add or Changed in the 3.0 Made the Game go out of the Rails.. and its Broken till this Day dosent matter how much they Try to Fix.)
Last edited by Thorvic; 25/11/23 01:26 AM.
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Joined: Sep 2023
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Well, that experience of the game sounds completely horrifying. I’m grateful that I was able to experience Act 1 and 2 and part of 3 before all of this hit the fan. It’s true that there have been things broken for months with no acknowledgment that they’re working on a fix. But patch 4 has been the most egregious purveyor of new bugs in the game. I have not played the game since a few days after patch 4 dropped. I just want to wait until everything is back in order. I’m playing Divinity Original Sin 2 also by Larian to get my fix of a turn-based RPG in the meantime. 
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Joined: Oct 2023
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Well yu are not Wrong.. The Best Option for the Moment its to just Drop Off from the Game and go Play another Stuff.. Maybe Someday they will Be Called Out by the Youtubers or some Bad stuff will Happen and they will have to Say Something. Becouse i Beleave that this is the Only Way for then to Wake Up and Actually Try to Fix the Game.
the Amount of Prizes and Nominations that they are Receaving its not Helping in Nothing. its only increasing the Number of Unsatisfied Players that will Spend Money in this Game to Get to the Same Situation that we are..haha (Having to Avoid the Game until they Start to Move and do Something.)
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stranger
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Joined: Nov 2023
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I think Larian's saving grace is that the game is DnD. you can take a poop and put the DnD park on it and it becomes a must-have gadget (even for me).
now, I wonder, if those of the witcher or dragon age had done similar shit... how would it have ended?
DnD saves... always...
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stranger
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Joined: Nov 2023
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Great breakdown, the same thing is happening to me on PS5
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Joined: Jul 2022
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Some ppl are still in denial about this. And telling us what we should delete or lower the graphics or some stupid suggestions. In fact Ps5 and cloud gaming is not adjustable. Mybe this is the reason: Youtube tiktok redit game journalist are focused on praise . And I think this is a huge part why we are ignored. I suggest to all of you reach out for playstation it's not worth for you time. To get angry about a imaginary dream developer studio.
They are swimming in praise and money . I guess only Japanese companies have some self criticism. Ahhkkmm FromSoft.
Last edited by ZOZO1006; 25/11/23 01:27 PM.
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Joined: Nov 2023
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This is happening to me on the PS5. I'm so sad because this is my first run through, and I got to Act 3 and it is absolutely unplayable. The party lags behind so badly that it takes 5-10 minutes to do simple things like open a door or chest. It's horrible. I just want to continue my adventure and see what happens 
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Joined: Nov 2023
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Fantastic post that pretty much sums up everything I have personally experienced to perfection. Thank you.
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Joined: Sep 2023
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These issues need more traction it's been weeks of silence on this and they want game of the year, why is no one covering these issues?
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stranger
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Joined: Nov 2023
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I think it could be any number of reasons: one, they don’t want to mess up their award chances by acknowledging bugs. Understandable but not the best. Two, they’re working hard on it and not wanting anyone to spoil when the next patch is. Three: Larian is privately owned and smaller than most of the games studios we venerate. That means less people to work on the swath of bugs in Acts 2 and 3, but still doesn’t explain the lack of response to the issues patch 4 and hotfix 11 created. I’m hoping they will give word after the awards or sooner but at this point all of our patience is wearing pretty thin. Feeling like a crack addict itching for my next fix of Astarion sass dialogue.
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Joined: Nov 2023
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The lack of communication in this issue is unforgivable...
It's an incredible game but 3 weeks with an issue that makes 1/3 of the game unplayable without even acknowledge the problem officially should prevent them from any award....
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Joined: Oct 2023
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Probably becouse all the Youtubers, Media are Praising Larian So Much..haha Its a Master Piece like evrybody Says did yu not know ? hauhauhauha and i Bet that they will Not get so Much Cover or Views by talking Bad of the Game of the Moment Get it ?! thats not the First Time in My Life i Saw Something like this from a Small Company.. i even Try to Warn People Here about it.. if yu go Back and Look some posts i Made from 1,2 mounths back and Evrybody called me Hatter or that i was Too Ruth on the game and Larian.. ok. CD Project Red Did the Same with Witcher 3 when realeased.. the game was only Properly Running 1 year Later..
But the Mask Fall off when they Try with Cyberpunk 2077 the Same. Just Wait.. The Moment Something Really Bad Hit the Fun.. its done for then.
(and i dont know if yu guys Noticed but they are Only Talking about the New Supreme version of the Game and the Xbox Version.. while whe have to Wait for a Fix. Really Nice.)
i Can only Felt Sorry for the People that will Trow away there Cash in this Game now at the end of the year just becouse are listening only the Praise that are coming from the Game in the Media. while the Truth.. Nobody Care to Talk.
Last edited by Thorvic; 25/11/23 11:41 PM.
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Joined: Nov 2023
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Larian should be ashamed of themselves, beyond anything the core to truely being who the have represented themselves with all this PR that goes on, is they claimed to be different that the uncaring companies who release trash in radio silence.
Sure the game was playable at release, however it's now unplayable for many once you hit ACT 3.
To me the worst part of this is the amount of hours I played to get 2/3s of the game run through done to hit these game ending bugs.
How can you claim to be worth considering as a GOTY contender when you'll happily stay quiet why players put 60 to 100 hours into your game to hit act 3 and have to give up playing.
Shame shame shame.
At this rate your next game has changed from a must have to a never ever touch.
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Joined: Nov 2023
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If any other AAA developer did this they would be review bombed into the ground and justly so. Larian however, is seen as the sympathetic under-dog sticking it to the "Establishment", and gets an undue pass.
This may sound controversial, but I think if a game has a AAA price, we should expect AAA quality, no matter the size of the developer studio. Our standards are already low enough that we excuse games released in very buggy states, but there is a difference between buggy and unplayable. Parts of the game have been unplayable for the last month.
At the very least we should have received some official statement explaining the state of things. "Sorry guys, we effed up! We are working on it day-and-night, and it will be fixed very soon." This is just basic courtesy. I'd love to know whether the massive lag is "just" a super complicated issue that needs several weeks to fix, or they are not taking it very seriously and are focused on crap like "bad kissing animations".
Last edited by MalacPok; 26/11/23 12:27 AM.
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Joined: Sep 2023
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Size of what developer studio? Larian is bigger than Bethesda. I don't think expecting to get what you pay for to be controversial. What seems to be controversial is telling people that maybe subjective enjoyment is not the same thing as objective quality. Just because you love a game to death, doesn't meant it's a 10/10. It just means that you love it. You should be able and willing to acknowledge the flaws in something you love and be cognizant that sometimes what you love to death is a 7/10.
And that's fine.
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Joined: Nov 2023
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For me, this game is a solid 10/10..... When it works..... I mean seriously, this is everything I ever wanted in an RPG, even down to the annoying dice rolls that can completely break your run, because that's what D&D is all about. Sure, you might get a kind DM who doesn't punish you to the maximum, but it still revolves around your luck with a set of dice. The only problem I have with the game at all, and I mean ONLY thing, is the fact that it has become unplayable due to technical issues. I can see how Larian don't want to acknowledge something that might cost them a GOTY, but it will cost them massively more in the long term by ignoring the issues, because gamers are the hardest audience to please in the known universe!! This was my undisputed GOTY until this happened, now I am frustrated at having clocked up a mere 1 hour (approx) of progress from my last 15-16 hours of actually being in the game. I just have to struggle through the 20-30 minute freeze-ups and find stuff to do on the side before it unfreezes. Gutted as I am 2 trophies away from Platinum and this is my Dark Urge Tactician run. Please just roll back the problematic updates and all will be forgiven! I'd rather have quirky animations than a totally broken game 
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Joined: Nov 2023
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I mean seriously, this is everything I ever wanted in an RPG, even down to the annoying dice rolls that can completely break your run, because that's what D&D is all about. Sure, you might get a kind DM who doesn't punish you to the maximum, but it still revolves around your luck with a set of dice. If you want a game that makes good use of dice rolls, I'd suggest Disco Elysium. Failing a roll there is never catastrophic, sometimes it is even the better outcome. BG3 however almost forces save-scumming (especially on a first playthrough) which along with the atrocious load times makes for a bad experience. It's like playing with a sadistic DM.
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stranger
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Joined: Nov 2023
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I mean seriously, this is everything I ever wanted in an RPG, even down to the annoying dice rolls that can completely break your run, because that's what D&D is all about. Sure, you might get a kind DM who doesn't punish you to the maximum, but it still revolves around your luck with a set of dice. If you want a game that makes good use of dice rolls, I'd suggest Disco Elysium. Failing a roll there is never catastrophic, sometimes it is even the better outcome. BG3 however almost forces save-scumming (especially on a first playthrough) which along with the atrocious load times makes for a bad experience. It's like playing with a sadistic DM. To be honest, I don't find the load times terribly egregious, well, not until you hit act 3 and everything is a 50/50 whether or not it's actually going to load or not. Funny you should mention Disco Elysium, it is the next game on my list and I will probably give up on my BG3 Platinum until they've fixed it, I'm just so bloody close though, it's a big tease!
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