Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion [END SPOILS WARNING] Addressing Karlach (PLEASE PUT SPOILERS IN TAGS)

Second point on that list could be potentially resolved with that patch. Hopefully they at least fix Minthara. The rest probably takes a while.


I have a friend who is about to start BG3 for the first time soon, and its quite funny to see how much has already changed since my first playthrough. Also just the fact that they never got to see the time His Majesty had fur.

I never knew his majesty had fur that's an odd change lol. I am glad to see minthara getting attention even though I'm not the biggest fan of her character

A part of me is kind of glad they didn't mostly based on how Halsin turned out, but then another part of me is like, we don't have a bard companion, or a sorcerer or monk or paladin for a good playthrough, but we have two druids? Seriously?

At the same time, I do enjoy the storyline she has now, especially since my Tav was a bard, and the relationship she has with Lakrissa, so I feel like having her as a companion might take away from that. Maybe, I don't know, I'd still be down for her as a DLC companion either way though. And at least then,

He had fur for one patch or such - him not having fur before that patch was a bug. The community was not happy about them fixing said bug, so they changed it back.
Its one of the reasons why I still have hope about Larian listening to us.


As for Alfira: I honestly don't know how you'd properly fit her into the group at this point, especially without removing her storyline. I like her a lot, but I'd rather watch her be happy with Lakrissa than travel around with the companions.

I'm also kinds glad they didn't make Alfira a companion. Not every npc needs to be a companion but it would be nice to see her kind of expanded in act 1

Agree.

if Alfira wasn't an option as the party is already full of elves and humans AND two druids to boot (the lack of variety in races as companions is unfortunate).
I've always found it weird as to why we needed two druids when all we needed were companions of each different class. The lack of a bard and a sorcerer companion gives me pain lmao.
It's probably why they changed Minthara from cleric to paladin due to Shadowheart - not sure if some of you knew or not but Minthara's dnd card has her as an elf cleric.

Also adding in my hope that the epilogues add a lot of closure to the endings (been waiting on those to drop to finish the game for the first time).

I would personally like to see new companion/ new races to pick from. If there was to be a dlc. Alfira of not.
Golaith would be a pretty easy add in even without dlc.
They are basicly body types 3 and 4 but angrier lookinglol

We only have two druids because people really wanted Halsin as a companion, which Larian didn't plan on, originally, and Jaheira is a nod to BG1/2.

As for Minthara not being a cleric:

I do agree that the lack of variety with the companions is a shame.

I haven't thought about that but it's really odd that we get 2 druids kinda makes me wonder why they bothered with halsin.

That's... actually something I didn't think of. Thanks for explaining it haha.


Well, Larian is known for listening to their fans and Halsin being added as a companion is a result of it, fans wanted him since EA. Although, I do wish they did more work on him since he's very weird in act 3. I liked act 1-2 Halsin far better than act 3 Halsin who basically exists to be a 'toy', to put it mildly.

That does atleast give confidence they'll listen about karlach given they added a whole new companion even though there was already a druid in the line up just to make people happy.

Patch 5 is coming in hot at 30GB. SURELY not all of that is related to epilogue stuff... right? Larion what are you COOKING!?

Yeah that is dumptruck lvl big. Pretty stoked for it in general but trying to tame my expectations lol. I imagine this thread with explode once it drops aswell lol

While this huge update downloads, I'm just gonna say one thing: I think we should tame our expectations, remember all that's been said about the fact that we love the game and Larian did an impressive job with it (which is why we care so much in the first place) regardless of what happens, and consider how cool it is that we're getting these epilogues at all (I am so intrigued by the way they're describing them in the community update, gah!). I played the game in full and I want to know what happens to everyone regardless of if I like it or not. "Happy endings are not guaranteed" may or may not be a direct warning, but throw it at me anyway!

But also I think at this point I'm gonna explode from all the anxiety, ahah.

See y'all on the other side and if I don't then it means that my save did not work and I'm trying to finish the second playthrough to see it, heh.

just to chime in real quick:
currently i dint have a playthrough with karlach, so if someone could maybe post a summary (WITH SPOILERTAG)about the epilogue where karlach & tav (+maybe wyll) went to avernus, id appreciate it.

and i agree with the others here, we should have low expectations in terms of changes for karlach.



thank you in advance

I read through the patch notes and didn’t really see any new content for Karlach or an indication that they’re going to add content

Well, with the epilogues and comment from larian that happy endings are never guaranteed at least we know for sure that the fix for Karlach was never planned

Unfirtunate but not unexpected

I’m with you on both points. You’re not alone!

Here’s to hoping someone else does a speed run through epilogues first and lays our collective anxiety to rest with spoilered text.