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@tarraxahum thank you for your answer. could you elaborate more about gales path? maybe some lets call them major/important plotpoints in gales story that lead to the good ending.

They could still have the Avernus dlc, just make it so that having Karlach is a bonus. The dlc doesn't have to be only Karlach related. It could be a whole different story but a side quest for Karlach if you do have her with you. Much like in the base game, you can do the companion quests without said companion present.

Edit: wow someone beat me to it already.

So, based on what is said in the epilogue, it doesn’t seem like they’re planning to incorporate a fix for Karlach’s heart into the base game. They just dropped this patch and it’s supposed to be a final goodbye, and you have all of this hopeful dialogue from Karlach where her heart isn’t fixed yet, but could be soon. It sounds like they’re doubling down on her existing endings, and trying to show more clearly that the Avernus ending IS her good ending.

So personally, I wouldn’t expect to see any expansion within the base game. This does make the existence of enriched infernal iron, for one, very perplexing. But I am okay with them doubling down on her endings at this point, because they’ve made more of a compelling case that the Avernus ending is in fact her good ending.

So, that news from the epilogue is pretty awesome huh?

Here we are, a few months later.

I'd love to see expansions for BG3, given the potential GOTY victory in the future, but, I'm glad to have lead this spearhead forward on multiple fronts, we built a sign big enough and Larian listened.

Been a long ride, but its nice to be at ease, right?!

I'm glad I can go to avernus without seeing it as a death sentence but I'm still looking at the epilogues as a lead in to a dlc or DE content that will incorporate a fix for karlachs engine in the next year or so. So glad we got this win though its a huge step in the right direction glad I've been here for it so far.

Good points! I guess that would work. If do then i welcome it !

Well, if a DLC like that happens, it would definitely be super cool, can't say no to that! But also, for now,
Thank you, Larian. Even if this is indeed the end of the story, I can leave it with a smile now, I think.




My backpack that's full of it shall forever be a monument to my determination (and desperation)! x)

Are we there, though? Did we get it... finally?

If what Nessius has said here is true, then definitely. However, Ecc2ca made me doubt hyping this patch with their post. Maybe my reading comprehension isn't that great.

assuming what ive heard about the epilogues is true with withers cryptic message and the forge in avernus and with staff at larian teasing an into avernus dlc its pretty likely we'll see something that will lead to a permeant fix. it might be a year but thats whatever really, it seems like this is a nice ribbon and theyre teasing more content to come with a fix for karlachs engine being teased. atleast to me. im kinda hyped about all this news right now tbh

i think theyre both right. the notes and stuff in the epilogues in my mind is definitely teasing a fix for her engine but it will likely be in an into avernus style dlc. ive seen some larian employees teasing that out recently and withers statements lead me to believe thats what theyre going for. so no not in the base game but a dlc or DE expansion type thing is still on the table in my mind

Thanks, yeah, I meant that I don’t think they will add a fix for her within the base game, based on the epilogue content, but I still think there’s a possibility that they could do an expansion separate from the game.

Im gonna be a downer for a second and say as nice as the new epilogue is, i wouldnt say it fixed the biggest problem with karlach, mainly that she still lacks a proper questline and different endings that the other origin characters get (aside from wyll who got screwed over by larian almost as much as karlach lol). Making the avernus ending seem more hopeful now is nice i guess, but it doesnt fix how much of a downer act 3 is for me due to the game not allowing us to help karlach at All.

The hints dropped in the epilogue definitely make me hope they release an avernus questline, preferrably as a free update since selling a proper, well-deserved questline for karlach as a dlc would feel pretty scummy.


Dragon age origins had a dlc that took place post-endgame that revolved around looking for a certain companion. Some players never kept this companion in their party to the end, and some even had their main character die in the final battle, yet bioware still decided to make this dlc. In fact this dlc was mostly made for people who romanced this companion since they wanted to know what happened to them after finishing the main game.
Obviously karlachs situation is a bit more complicated but its still possible to have a dlc focus on just one character. I would argue in karlachs case its necessary she gets a fleshed out questline and adventure to make up for the offensively lackluster and linear questline she has in the game now, but i guess we'll see if it ever happens. The epilogue does give me hope though!

My soul now knows peace.

ALSO! AVERNUS DLC MAYBE?????????????????????????????????

They don't have to make the whole DLC revolve around Karlach. Heck, she doesn't even need to be the main focus. Her raid on the forge could be one small questline from a much larger narrative down there that involves the entire gang.

looks like its on the table. heres hoping!

I mean, yeah,

I’m with you here, sister.

I’d really like more, but you know what? If we can get a DLC or DE by 2025, I’d have no problem waiting specifically because of this epilogue, and nothing else. No rush now.

I second those thanks to Larian. I think they listened.

Can you source me some of those teases?

im not well versed on how to use commands in the chat on forums but 1 or 2 pages back they talked about the epilogues. thats what ive heard someone above posted the karlach epilogue but i havent watched it to clear it up i want to see it first hand for my self. it seems likely theyre setting up an avernus based dlc, maybe something to do with elturel and the tieflings or something about a demon or devil invasion with karlachs heart mission being a side quest to this new threat.