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No? Again it's proof that minthara was the more pressing concern. She was nearly unplayable from what I understand and the parts that were playable were bare bones at best. It's more likely that larian is working on some fix for karlach given all the options that could work within the game. But I forgot you're the one that's just here to argue and ignore counter points. So I guess that's my fault.
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Conrad your more then free to leave the thread then as its *clear proof* pat your self on the back etc etc. If it is the end. And youre now satisfied with it and youve said your piece. Theres no reason for you to still be here..in a thread literally about advocating for a better/ fixed engine ending.
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Minthara is still buggy, at least on old playthroughs. Its depressing. Why is there no kiss option yet? You'd think they'd finally fix that issue. But maybe on a new run.
But hey, at least we got the epilogues, I guess. Anyone got to them yet and can tell us more?
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With Patch 5 being out... I'm going to ask this, knowing the answer is probably "no": the wait is over, right? They fixed my companion? Right?
Last edited by SynnLee; 30/11/23 08:00 PM. Reason: More words.
Erm, given that I've made this account for this purpose primarily... #JusticeForKarlach!
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Erm, given that I've made this account for this purpose primarily... #JusticeForKarlach!
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I'd kinda be surprised if her issue wasn't brought up in the epilogue at all. The notes say that you get a bunch of letters and check in with a bunch of the NPCs from the game so it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the Gondians or Dammon show up with a solution.
Edit: Really that would check all of the boxes. It'd be a solution that we worked for based on what we did in the game, it wouldn't undermine the Avernus decision since its a whole six months later, and it'd work the breadcrumbs together into a believable path. Honestly it'd be kinda strange if it WASN'T addressed, and would just be another story hole.
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I'd kinda be surprised if her issue wasn't brought up in the epilogue at all. The notes say that you get a bunch of letters and check in with a bunch of the NPCs from the game so it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the Gondians or Dammon show up with a solution. i'd really like for them to set up the next patch, DLC, or DE even having a solution based off the notes from the epilogue. Maybe you survive the hells long enough and the gondians remember oh yea theres this other better infernal iron thatll probably work. or elminster that useless fuck might actually do something other than fuck off and eat cheese. it would be really nice to see and im hoping for something like that
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I've just read that apparently the Karlach epilogue is very good, and that there is even some hope teased for the future with them. Also apparently Karlach is quite content ripping and tearing her way across Avernus with her lover so even if they do go back to Avernus she's happy. Keep in mind though I haven't actually played it nor do I know any specific details. For those curious: Apparently there is a special forge in Avernus that can build a new engine. Also Withers says he might have need of us again so potential DLC bait is also there.
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I've just read that apparently the Karlach epilogue is very good, and that there is even some hope teased for the future with them. Also apparently Karlach is quite content ripping and tearing her way across Avernus with her lover so even if they do go back to Avernus she's happy. Keep in mind though I haven't actually played it nor do I know any specific details. For those curious: Apparently there is a special forge in Avernus that can build a new engine. Also Withers says he might have need of us again so potential DLC bait is also there. assuming this is legit thats the best news ive heard in months. heres hoping its legit. also is anyone else having trouble playing old saves? mine are unmodded and im still unable to launch them.
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Well. You know what? I'll happily take it.
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Same. Im fine with this. This does sound pretty good
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It's a great setup for dlc or DE content I'm happily taking this and running with it assuming its real. Let's not give up on that end of it this is the first glimmer of hope we've had since this started let's not settle now.
Last edited by mattmcrich; 30/11/23 09:05 PM.
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Well. You know what? I'll happily take it.
If what Nessius said indeed is canon, I am perfectly happy with that. It's not a lame compromise like, say, Karlach staying alive, but condemned to fight in Avernus for the rest of her life. Nope, it sounds more like a go fight down there, fix her heart, go back to surface kind of affair. Yes, Karlach seems to have PTSD from that place, but hey, at least she leaves that icky place with a hard-earned chance to live happily ever after in the surface world.
Originally, choosing the Avernus ending sounded like a losing fight - fighting against way more powerful enemies - so I genuinely questioned why did they even bother working on that ending at all. However, this gives the Avernus ending a happy tone - finally, a Karlach ending with such a tone! - making it completely acceptable for me.
I'll take that. With a smile. No ifs and buts.
Last edited by SynnLee; 30/11/23 09:14 PM. Reason: More words.
Erm, given that I've made this account for this purpose primarily... #JusticeForKarlach!
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Yeah. Although I would have preferred to be actively there to see it, to help her. Oh well, maybe in DE or the dlc - though the latter will probably be set before the endings.
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Yeah. Although I would have preferred to be actively there to see it, to help her. Oh well, maybe in DE or the dlc - though the latter will probably be set before the endings. I think that's what this is setting up and I'll keep hoping thats the case. I'm happy we got this but like you said I want to be there and I think larian is gonna give it to us in a dlc or de
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The setup for an Avernus DLC is real and there's major talks in the dialogue about us being back sooner rather than later/telling people to keep their place ready for us because we will be back soon. Either way, GANG! TIME TO REEL OVER AND KEEP REQUESTING A PROPER AVERNUS DLC!! Since this epilogue is a canon event 6 months post-game, the likelihood of them adding anything into the game that changes the dialogue for said epilogue (giving them even more work to do, in a patch they just released) is rather unlikely. But what is likely is everything they seeded, planted and watered throughout the entire epilogue section. Whether you play as Origin Karlach, romance her or let her go back to Avernus with Wyll, there's always a choice for whom to play in the DLC.
Hell, even Flo as a lead in is mentioned. Imagine the awkwardness of meeting HER in-game!
#AvernusDLCforKarlach
Last edited by NomTheBurritos; 30/11/23 09:21 PM.
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Yeah. Although I would have preferred to be actively there to see it, to help her. Oh well, maybe in DE or the dlc - though the latter will probably be set before the endings. Oh
for sure! Continuing the cigar scene with an equally badass fight and earning that fixed heart with my party's and my bare hands? Yes, please!
However, this would be the bare minimum for me to accept the Avernus ending as the good one and actually resume playing this game.
TIME TO REEL OVER AND KEEP REQUESTING A PROPER AVERNUS DLC!! I won't push that button. This is not me saying I wouldn't buy or play that DLC because I sure as hell (pun not intended  ) would, but I won't insist on it as hard as on the core #JusticeForKarlach stuff. Just get her fixed, I don't care how elaborate the fix is.
Last edited by SynnLee; 30/11/23 09:31 PM. Reason: More replies.
Erm, given that I've made this account for this purpose primarily... #JusticeForKarlach!
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The setup for an Avernus DLC is real and there's major talks in the dialogue about us being back sooner rather than later/telling people to keep their place ready for us because we will be back soon. Either way, GANG! TIME TO REEL OVER AND KEEP REQUESTING A PROPER AVERNUS DLC!! Since this epilogue is a canon event 6 months post-game, the likelihood of them adding anything into the game that changes the dialogue for said epilogue (giving them even more work to do, in a patch they just released) is rather unlikely. But what is likely is everything they seeded, planted and watered throughout the entire epilogue section. Whether you play as Origin Karlach, romance her or let her go back to Avernus with Wyll, there's always a choice for whom to play in the DLC.
Hell, even Flo as a lead in is mentioned. Imagine the awkwardness of meeting HER in-game!
#AvernusDLCforKarlach This is awsome I hope it's true and they deliver on this hint I definitely want to see the avernus dlc and be there for the cure. I think larian knows this is this is a clear setup for avernus dlc. Maybe zariel related or mizora I think that's how you spell her name
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