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My soul now knows peace.
ALSO! AVERNUS DLC MAYBE????????????????????????????????? looks like its on the table. heres hoping!
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A kind soul has uploaded the new Karlach epilogue on YouTube. Well, it's so-so. It definitely gives some hope, it no longer seems like a death sentence, but still didn't directly unfold into Karlach fixing her heart. I mean, yeah, it's an open ending. But it's hopeful and sounds pretty damn optimistic, which I think is good. They seem to have the blueprints and they know where the forge is, even may have potential help getting there. That's like, one well-done hustle away from what could very well be a permanent ticket home. Maybe two well-done hustles. They are good at those!  I honestly didn't really think that fixing it on-screen in an epilogue (or behind the scenes BEFORE the epilogue) would be a good choice narratively. Giving a clear sign that they're close and optimistic about it? I think that works nicely, with or without a DLC. That's a nice progress to achieve in 6 months while fighting for your life. Give them a few more, they'll be fine
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Well, if a DLC like that happens, it would definitely be super cool, can't say no to that! But also, for now…
Thank you, Larian. Even if this is indeed the end of the story, I can leave it with a smile now, I think. I’m with you here, sister. I’d really like more, but you know what? If we can get a DLC or DE by 2025, I’d have no problem waiting specifically because of this epilogue, and nothing else. No rush now. I second those thanks to Larian. I think they listened.
#JusticeForKarlach
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Well, if a DLC like that happens, it would definitely be super cool, can't say no to that! But also, for now, I think seeing my girls smiling and laughing and talking about having a pretty substantial plan righted something in the chemistry of my brain that had been askew ever since I've read the ending spoilers back in August. Seeing all our friends happy and even making plans with some of them definitely helped as well. Thank you, Larian. Even if this is indeed the end of the story, I can leave it with a smile now, I think. assuming what ive heard about the epilogues is true with withers cryptic message and the forge in avernus and with staff at larian teasing an into avernus dlc its pretty likely we'll see something that will lead to a permeant fix. it might be a year but thats whatever really, it seems like this is a nice ribbon and theyre teasing more content to come with a fix for karlachs engine being teased. atleast to me. im kinda hyped about all this news right now tbh Can you source me some of those teases?
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Well, if a DLC like that happens, it would definitely be super cool, can't say no to that! But also, for now, I think seeing my girls smiling and laughing and talking about having a pretty substantial plan righted something in the chemistry of my brain that had been askew ever since I've read the ending spoilers back in August. Seeing all our friends happy and even making plans with some of them definitely helped as well. Thank you, Larian. Even if this is indeed the end of the story, I can leave it with a smile now, I think. assuming what ive heard about the epilogues is true with withers cryptic message and the forge in avernus and with staff at larian teasing an into avernus dlc its pretty likely we'll see something that will lead to a permeant fix. it might be a year but thats whatever really, it seems like this is a nice ribbon and theyre teasing more content to come with a fix for karlachs engine being teased. atleast to me. im kinda hyped about all this news right now tbh Can you source me some of those teases? im not well versed on how to use commands in the chat on forums but 1 or 2 pages back they talked about the epilogues. the epilogues that i saw talked about had an avernus forge found that could craft a better heart/engine for karlach somewhere in the hells. withers says that he may have need of you sooner rather than later as well as some other on here who said larian staff posted about an avernus dlc. i dont know how true that last one is. thats what ive heard someone above posted the karlach epilogue but i havent watched it to clear it up i want to see it first hand for my self. it seems likely theyre setting up an avernus based dlc, maybe something to do with elturel and the tieflings or something about a demon or devil invasion with karlachs heart mission being a side quest to this new threat.
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If the epilogue implies a continuation of Karlach's story in a dlc, I say bring it on Larian. I'm ready.
The dlc is a perfect way to give Karlach her much needed content and a nice fix - something all Karlach fans would love to see.
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im not well versed on how to use commands in the chat on forums but 1 or 2 pages back they talked about the epilogues. the epilogues that i saw talked about had an avernus forge found that could craft a better heart/engine for karlach somewhere in the hells. withers says that he may have need of you sooner rather than later as well as some other on here who said larian staff posted about an avernus dlc. i dont know how true that last one is. thats what ive heard someone above posted the karlach epilogue but i havent watched it to clear it up i want to see it first hand for my self. it seems likely theyre setting up an avernus based dlc, maybe something to do with elturel and the tieflings or something about a demon or devil invasion with karlachs heart mission being a side quest to this new threat. I was curious about the staff hinting at a particular DLC. I thought you might have some Tweets or something, but I'll ask the others in that case. Thank you!
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im not well versed on how to use commands in the chat on forums but 1 or 2 pages back they talked about the epilogues. the epilogues that i saw talked about had an avernus forge found that could craft a better heart/engine for karlach somewhere in the hells. withers says that he may have need of you sooner rather than later as well as some other on here who said larian staff posted about an avernus dlc. i dont know how true that last one is. thats what ive heard someone above posted the karlach epilogue but i havent watched it to clear it up i want to see it first hand for my self. it seems likely theyre setting up an avernus based dlc, maybe something to do with elturel and the tieflings or something about a demon or devil invasion with karlachs heart mission being a side quest to this new threat. I was curious about the staff hinting at a particular DLC. I thought you might have some Tweets or something, but I'll ask the others in that case. Thank you! https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=925887#Post925887thats the post that spoke about larian staff talking about it and hinting at it if youre interested its under their second spoiler tag. sorry for not grabbing it earlier
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I don't think the staff was hinting at anything, unless you mean that the things that were said in the epilogue in of itself sound like a hint. In which case, I honestly think it's just as well works as just an open ending. We're big boys girls and pals, we can put two and two together ourselves. Together with Withers's cryptic promise of us being needed again later , however, it also may be a hint. I'm not ruling that possibility out, I just think we should see it as a theory, not a definite promise! We shall see! I'm always down to be optimistic, but I also don't want to be like "Okay, more when???" immediately after receiving such a heartfelt conclusion (to the game as a whole I mean, with everyone) x)
Last edited by tarraxahum; 30/11/23 11:39 PM. Reason: spoiler tagssss
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Thanks! Doesn't seem like Nom was referring to the staff, tho. More so the dialogue itself. But like @tarraxahum said, Withers' cryptic line is as good a hint as we'll get for now.
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Thanks! Doesn't seem like Nom was referring to the staff, tho. More so the dialogue itself. But like @tarraxahum said, Withers' cryptic line is as good a hint as we'll get for now. My bad then I must've misread the post my bad. But you're right I think the in game hints are really strong already. I'm very happy with what larian did this patch giving karlach fans hope was a nice bone to throw us but I'm still hoping we will get a definite cure by the end
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This might not be a hint, but we do have confirmation that the team isn't done yet with the game: When asked about post-launch expansion plans for Baldur’s Gate 3, Larian Studio’s senior product manager, Tom Butler, said the team “want to do more” with the hit RPG, but what that looks like is still uncertain.
“We’ll carry on patching for a while and then we’re all going to take a holiday and then we’ll figure out what we do next,” Butler said in an interview with IGN. That holiday would be well-deserved after the game’s acclaimed launch and the three years of early access before that. “But at the moment,” Butler continued, “we genuinely have discussions. We want to do more. We don’t know what yet.” Source.
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This might not be a hint, but we do have confirmation that the team isn't done yet with the game: When asked about post-launch expansion plans for Baldur’s Gate 3, Larian Studio’s senior product manager, Tom Butler, said the team “want to do more” with the hit RPG, but what that looks like is still uncertain.
“We’ll carry on patching for a while and then we’re all going to take a holiday and then we’ll figure out what we do next,” Butler said in an interview with IGN. That holiday would be well-deserved after the game’s acclaimed launch and the three years of early access before that. “But at the moment,” Butler continued, “we genuinely have discussions. We want to do more. We don’t know what yet.” Source.I'll take that as my best Christmas gift along with the epilogues that's good enough for me to keep hoping personally
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Hey, everybody, I'm here again. I'm very much afraid of spoilers. Without spoilers, is there anything I can do with the Karlach engine?
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Hey, everybody, I'm here again. I'm very much afraid of spoilers. Without spoilers, is there anything I can do with the Karlach engine? Hey! Phrasing it as non-spoilery as I can: you, the player, in the game - no, but there's now a much stronger implication that the characters, eventually, might well be able to. Whether that's just an optimistic open ending or a hint at any continuation is up for theorizing.
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Is it just me, or is anyone else left with a bittersweet taste in their mouths? In a way, they managed to polish their own "happier"ending of choice into a much better one. Avernus ending feels better, plays better, good one Larian.
But to still not know whether they'll ever implement any changes to act 3 and ever let us actually use Dammon, Gondians and all the stuff in the late game; it stings? Maybe I'm just bitter. Maybe I'd hoped for more. With rhis patch, it feels almost as finite as Citadel was for Mass Effect's trilogy.
Will there be more patches that edit other things than bugs and mishaps? Will they ever properly fix Minthara and the lines with Halsin people have complained so heavily about? I don't know.
Maybe someone here will call me a sore loser who can't be happy with what I got. And believe me, I truly love everything this patch offers! Hats off to the crew!! But I'm not...satisfied with this one thing. I really, still, feel we should be able to fix her within the bounds of the game. Or at least, if they really want to die on the hill that is their precious Avernus ending (and "no happy endings are ever guaranteed"), then let us pick up where they do post-epilogue.
Anyone else? Feels like Reddit and Twitter exploded with OMG BEST ENDING EVER WOO WAR IS WON LARIAN THE GOAT everywhere I look
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Is it just me, or is anyone else left with a bittersweet taste in their mouths? In a way, they managed to polish their own "happier"ending of choice into a much better one. Avernus ending feels better, plays better, good one Larian.
But to still not know whether they'll ever implement any changes to act 3 and ever let us actually use Dammon, Gondians and all the stuff in the late game; it stings? Maybe I'm just bitter. Maybe I'd hoped for more. With rhis patch, it feels almost as finite as Citadel was for Mass Effect's trilogy.
Will there be more patches that edit other things than bugs and mishaps? Will they ever properly fix Minthara and the lines with Halsin people have complained so heavily about? I don't know.
Maybe someone here will call me a sore loser who can't be happy with what I got. And believe me, I truly love everything this patch offers! Hats off to the crew!! But I'm not...satisfied with this one thing. I really, still, feel we should be able to fix her within the bounds of the game. Or at least, if they really want to die on the hill that is their precious Avernus ending (and "no happy endings are ever guaranteed"), then let us pick up where they do post-epilogue.
Anyone else? Feels like Reddit and Twitter exploded with OMG BEST ENDING EVER WOO WAR IS WON LARIAN THE GOAT everywhere I look It's annoying they left the gondians, dammon, and the enriched infernal iron on the table just as a huge glaring plot hole. It makes act 3 look bad as a result imo and makes the characters and companions callous and cruel for not even trying options that should be able to save karlach. That being said from the rumors I've seen it sounds like larian is setting up future content that could resolve karlachs engine and give us a true happy ending for the big red cinnamon roll. Maybe I'm over hyping it, maybe I'm being ungrateful but to me the battle isn't won. We got a major win no doubt and I'll praise larian for it but as it stands act 3 has plot holes all over the place for karlach ( aswell as others I'm sure I've just been hyper away of hers) and it hurts alot just having to say well maybe in a dlc or maybe in the DE. you're not the only one it likely felt similar after the first avernus ending was dropped.
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i agree. while this patch is great and i enjoy the epilogue (watched on yt). right now i would be happy of larian announce, that there will be no fix in act 3 but instead a solution in a future dlc. but yes, its too early to call it a "victory/war won", its more like "we won a battle, but not the war".
#JusticeForKarlach!
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I was beyond delighted, when I opened my Gale-Origin file yesterday to hop over to the party and I could interact with Karlach on the docks! Blessed Mystra seems to have bestowed a rare minute of patience on Gale. Unfortunately, wenn I opened my older Astarion-Origin, the line-up order wasn't affected and things still got too hot.
I was wondering, if that was the fault of my old save file or is it still not possible to send her with Wyll when playing Astarion-Origin with a spawn ending?
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I've noticed that despite the additions of new dialogue here and there and some smoothing, they haven't actually changed the base game to any real degree. They've added things certainly, with the epilogues and now Minthara for good playthroughs and companion reactivity etc. But no new quests have been added, the story beats are the same, and the game still goes the way it goes.
Which is striking because the game has lots of plot holes. Karlach is arguably not even the most egregious. The ending is still a mess, lots of quests are still strangely paced, and there are still dangling plot threads. I'm guessing that IF they add a fix for Karlach in game (and that if gets bigger after the epilogues are out), it'll come when Act 3 gets smoothed over for the DE. Frankly, I'm okay with what we got. All I really wanted was to know that everything was going to be okay for Karlach and Tav, and things seem to be quite okay thank you very much.
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