Originally Posted by rodeolifant
Mortal Kombat and God of War are, as their titles suggest *about* grotesque, over-the-top violence. Taking that out, nullifies these games entirely.

Not so much with the gratuitous, immature nonsense in BG3. You can take out the Emperor stuff, the gay bear sex, the incessant corny jokes, Halsin's God-of-Porn complex, the buggering bugbear and the game wouldn't be lesser for it in the slightest. In fact, if they'd have not done that and focused on Act three instead - I'd say the game would be *better* for it.

That's not true at all, removing the over the top violence would be no different than removing the exploration of sexuality in the BG3, because it's a staple aspect of the game. If you removed those aspects of the game, it would be an entirely different game, because you're removing them exploring different aspects of sexuality. It's just accepted that the violence is tied to GoW and MK because we're more used to violence. But just like how you say you could remove the aspects BG3 you mentioned and make it a possibly better game, a same argument can be made that you can remove the over the top violence of GoW and MK and possibly be an even better game for it. There is no reason a game needs to push eyeballs out of anyone sockets. There's no reason a game should have a skeleton get pulled out of somebody's body. And there's no reason a gnoll should mangle and explode out of a hyena's body. But these are aspects of violence and so therefore, it's accepted. All of that could be removed from a game and you still can and would have a great game.



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If it were just an exploration of sexuality, you wouldn't hear me complain. For the bazilionth time, I'm fine with the romances and nudity. I'm more taken aback by the childish stuff I just mentioned above. I find it dumb and cringey.

And for the bazillioth time, I already said I didn't think you had an issue with romance and nudity, but you clearly view their exploration of sexuality as "immature" as those are your words. You find their exploration childish, dumb and cringey. That's entirely your prerogative to view it that way. I and many others clearly do not.

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No. Like I said above - God of War and Mortal Kombat are *about* that violence and cannot exist without it. Just like those Anime sex games in Steam's Adult section are about over the top immature sex and cannot exist without that. Those are on opposite sides of the spectrum - and can exist just fine. I couldn't care less. There is exactly the amount of gratuitous, imamture sex and violence across these games as needed, and I avoid these games accordingly.

And once again, not true at all. There is nothing about a fighting game or adventure game that dictates it needs to have that level of violence. The developers choose to implement that level of violence to create a staple for itself, just like BG3 decided to push the envelope of sexuality. There is literally no difference between the two. Violence is just given a pass because it's violence. And no, "anime sex games" is literally it's own genre under dating sim. They are not coupled in another genre like adventure, fighting, puzzle, etc. So unless you're saying BG3's pushing of sexuality should be relegated to just dating sims (which it shouldn't and won't), they don't apply here.

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Yes, and for certain - one of those things is hype. And, the hype is certainly aided by the things that I'm criticising here. But I will stay on the point that the stuff I mention above do not contribute to the quality of the game. And, as good a game as it is on other fronts - mechanics and reactivity and exploration are incredible - the game is very lacking narratively towards the end. I'll stand by the point that I'd rather have that fixed than a hunky sex god companion. Because I'm still not twelve.


Correction: You "believe" they do not contribute to the quality of the game. You can only speak from your opinion as many others fully disagree with your statement. Secondly, being "twelve" has nothing to do with either outlook A twelve year cannot legally buy this game (at least in America) and quite a few of the voice actors (some award winning) favorite aspect of the game was the romance and BG3's boldness in sexual acts. So, let's not go down the superiority complex road and respect that people can have different opinions on the matter.