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I keep thinking about that & it's just a chunk of what I'd like to be changed, but I thought it might we worth posting. I usually hang out on tumblr, but maybe this forum has more opportunities for it to make into the game. Haven't seen a general original Astarion thread discussion, so I'm creating this one. It's mostly Astarion right now, and later I'd love to post about Halsin. There's a LOT I think needs to be talked about.

1. How come you can purchase a full body sculpture of your companions, even a naked one, and not a single companion reacts to that? How come you don’t get a cutscene the first thing you enter the camp after purchasing the sculpture with Astarion reacting? It’s understandable when you play an Origin Character (OC). But when you play as Astarion, purchase a sculpture “of yourself” that acts like his mirror, but he doesn’t react to that at ALL? The boy hasn’t seen himself in the mirror since he was turned & he longs to see his own reflection and how he looks. How come you, as OC, can’t lead him to the statue and tell him that it’s him? How come there are no different reactions depending whether he’s fully dressed, in his underwear, or completely naked? I would like a fully rendered cutscene with him looking at the statue and reacting to his image captured in stone, but even a remark would be (a tiny) improvement.

2. Astarion’s Origin run feels incredibly OOC. So many Tav choices that you can make as him that are not in his character. He disapproves of the same choices made in the game as OC, therefore his complex and interesting personality gets completely lost/erased in Tav’s answers. Those origin runs feel like a waste of resources on Larian’s part when they could’ve created more scenes and reactions for and with the actual companions. I said that multiple times, but the lack of content for Halsin? We could’ve had it all, yet many things with him are just rushed and feel undercooked. It saddens me.

3. Also, I romance Astarion with Halsin, so it would be nice for specific characters and couples to have specific remarks about their relationship and how it’s overall going. Because, you know, all the characters have different personalities.
Why can’t we comfort Astarion? After Cazador is killed & Astarion weeps there, why can’t we kneel next to him and embrace him? Why can’t we follow Astarion when he starts burning in the sun, why can’t we cover him, why can’t we sit next to him behind those crates? Why don’t we even see that he sits there in the shadow unless we’re playing as him? Neither Tav nor Durge see what Astarion does there. He looks so incredibly lonely there. I want to be there for him, ESPECIALLY if we’re romancing him. And if we’re playing as him, I want a character I romance him with to sit next to him and comfort him, talk to him until it’s safe to leave.

4. Also, technically, to my understanding Astarion can be covered from direct sunlight to get away with it? He can be covered and be led from there to a building, somewhere comfortable. Since Patch 5 and Ascended Astarion being able to turn into a bat, why can’t a spawn turn into one? He should be able to. Petras and that other female spawn were able to teleport, so technically this could be done.

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I disagree with your number 2. While I also think that Astarion's Origin has issues (the biggest being its pacing) and I am not a fan of it, Gale's is my favourite version of the game and I think it is brilliant. I have written a very long rant about it yesterday, so I'll leave it at that here. smile

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Originally Posted by youarebymyside
I keep thinking about that & it's just a chunk of what I'd like to be changed, but I thought it might we worth posting. I usually hang out on tumblr, but maybe this forum has more opportunities for it to make into the game. Haven't seen a general original Astarion thread discussion, so I'm creating this one. It's mostly Astarion right now, and later I'd love to post about Halsin. There's a LOT I think needs to be talked about.

1. How come you can purchase a full body sculpture of your companions, even a naked one, and not a single companion reacts to that? How come you don’t get a cutscene the first thing you enter the camp after purchasing the sculpture with Astarion reacting? It’s understandable when you play an Origin Character (OC). But when you play as Astarion, purchase a sculpture “of yourself” that acts like his mirror, but he doesn’t react to that at ALL? The boy hasn’t seen himself in the mirror since he was turned & he longs to see his own reflection and how he looks. How come you, as OC, can’t lead him to the statue and tell him that it’s him? How come there are no different reactions depending whether he’s fully dressed, in his underwear, or completely naked? I would like a fully rendered cutscene with him looking at the statue and reacting to his image captured in stone, but even a remark would be (a tiny) improvement.

2. Astarion’s Origin run feels incredibly OOC. So many Tav choices that you can make as him that are not in his character. He disapproves of the same choices made in the game as OC, therefore his complex and interesting personality gets completely lost/erased in Tav’s answers. Those origin runs feel like a waste of resources on Larian’s part when they could’ve created more scenes and reactions for and with the actual companions. I said that multiple times, but the lack of content for Halsin? We could’ve had it all, yet many things with him are just rushed and feel undercooked. It saddens me.

3. Also, I romance Astarion with Halsin, so it would be nice for specific characters and couples to have specific remarks about their relationship and how it’s overall going. Because, you know, all the characters have different personalities.
Why can’t we comfort Astarion? After Cazador is killed & Astarion weeps there, why can’t we kneel next to him and embrace him? Why can’t we follow Astarion when he starts burning in the sun, why can’t we cover him, why can’t we sit next to him behind those crates? Why don’t we even see that he sits there in the shadow unless we’re playing as him? Neither Tav nor Durge see what Astarion does there. He looks so incredibly lonely there. I want to be there for him, ESPECIALLY if we’re romancing him. And if we’re playing as him, I want a character I romance him with to sit next to him and comfort him, talk to him until it’s safe to leave.

4. Also, technically, to my understanding Astarion can be covered from direct sunlight to get away with it? He can be covered and be led from there to a building, somewhere comfortable. Since Patch 5 and Ascended Astarion being able to turn into a bat, why can’t a spawn turn into one? He should be able to. Petras and that other female spawn were able to teleport, so technically this could be done.

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That ending is atrocious, yes.

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a hug right after Cazador wouldn't be right, it's his moment and he needs space. Better during the following long rest.

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Here’s my list for Halsin:
  • Able to be a party member in Act 1 when he joins camp (instead of waiting for Act 2)
  • Add a main romance path if Tav is not romancing anyone else
  • Small Act 3 quest, such as saving the tree
  • Bug fixes

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Some Halsin ideas:

- let him join the party at least at the end of act 1, ideally around the tiefling party.
- make him an active participant in the act 2 quests related to the curse
- let me leave him behind in act 2 if I don’t plan to use him actively

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About nr. 3: I agree with t1mekill3r that
a hug is not fitting for the Cazador scene. As hard as it is watching him from a distance it's important he does this on his own, I don't even think he would want physical contact at that moment.

It's the total opposite for the ending though. You've come longer in your relationship and I think he'd appreciate physical comfort. I think it would help a lot if the romance dialogue after the docks scene would be moved to the place behind the crates instead of some random room. Astarion and the pc sit closely side by side and have their conversation. It's dark, implying that the two have been sitting there a while and also that the pc has run after him right after the docks scene to see if he's ok and to keep him company in his moment of grief. It's not perfect, but it would need the least tweaking of the end scene imo.


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