Originally Posted by rodeolifant
Yes it is. You can take it out, and end up with Street Fighter. Take more out, and end up with IK+ . The whole game is literally styled after the over-the-top action movies of the era, hells - the main character was even modeled after Jean Claude Van Damme, signature kicks and all. It is part of the identity of the brand - which at the time was just the game, of course.

Right...cause the only thing separating street fighter and mortal kombat is the violence. So I guesss Tekken, Soul Caliber, Virtua Fighter and more should all be renamed Street Fighter. Because they don't have the over the top violence to separate the two games...

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The same is for BG3. BG3 is built around pushing the boundaries regarding sexuality.
Look, pushing boundaries... Just like 'exploring sexuality' ... That sounds kind of artsy and new. And there are certainly instances in this game where sex is used as a functional tool for storytelling.
But buggering bugbears isn't that, really. I mean, come on. It's a cheap, immature joke. Tentacle Porn Achievement? Gay Bear Sex? All the cheap banter jokes that a 15-year-old would make... That has nothing to do with 'exploring sexuality' and 'pushing boundaries'. It just doesn't.



You can disagree, you can tell me actors can disagree - but unless you come with something substantial other than saying 'it's pushing a boundary' or other , you'll not convince me. You'll have to tell me how that stuff actually adds something, or how it works as a functional storytelling device. All I see is intended shock value, and I don't necesarily see a boundary that needed pushing, either. Again, I played Leisure Suit Larry in 1989.

Oh I have no interest nor plans in convincing you. These topics will always go around in circles because we're discussing completely subjective topics based on the biases and interests of a particular person. There is literally no way for me to convince you about BG3's pushing the boundaries just like there's no way you would convince me bg3 antics are immature or that over the top violence is a necessity in gaming. Because our viewpoint on the matter is going to lean towards the biases we have towards a particular topic.

It's along the lines of the recent spider man 2 discussion. There were a few articles out there stating that Miles Morales got short changed in Spider Man 2, due to having significantly less mission time and plot importance than Peter Parker. The people who wanted to play as Miles mostly agreed, saying his story was hampered until Act 3. But those that wanted to play as Peter mostly disagreed, because they stated Peter should be the main spider man and therefore should have the 75/25 split we saw in the game. There is no way each side is going to convince the other their point, because their biases are intrinsically linked to two opposite sides.

The same applies here. Nothing we're discussing here is factual, merely subjective lenses fueled by our biases and viewpoints. It's along the lines of "one mans trash is another mans treasure." You're not going to convince the other that it's trash or treasure.

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But that's not how it works in a debate. I say what I think, you say what you think. 'Lots of people like it' is not an argument, you can't speak for 'lots of people'. Also, let's face it. Lots of people think the Earth is flat, that doesn't make it flat.

A debate also doesn't work by using off-handed analogies to give the false impression that your viewpoint is the correct one, but you keep using this tactic. Secondly, I don't "need" to speak for "lots of people." You only need to pull up VODS from the Actors playing BG3 like Jennifer English, Devora Wilde, Neil and more to see the hundreds and thousands that echo my point. But that's entirely on you if you wanna dive into that rabbit hole.