Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion Please Fix Shadowheart's Sharess'_Caress Dialog

That disapproval shouldn't be removed, it makes perfect sense. KillerRabbit already put it perfectly.

The disapproval should be removed. It's extremely disrespectful especially if a Tav rejected that lumbering buffoon beforehand. Just because a couple is interested in going to some prostitutes doesn't mean they're inviting everybody to their bed, definitely not somebody one of them rejected earlier. In any case, if Larian comes up with a new game I know which writer's companions I'm staying clear from.

No, it doesn't.

There is an option to play dumb there with drows(why do you need my partner or something like that line), so Shadowheart first says her response, which triggers Halsin response, which triggers disapproval for player. Very nice, eh?

If you want to justify her disapproval there, you should also justify why Gale approves there if you you include Halsin. For consistency of course. He likes to be cucked or something?

It's funny to me how some people defend Shadowheart by blaming Halsin for everything, when it's she who shows excessive interest in sleeping with the druid while she's in a romance
with the player. I say this because, aside from the Drow twins scene, there's a party banter where Shadowheart blatantly flirts with Halsin right in front of her partner, just
after their romance scene in Act 3 where she and Tav make love for the first time. If that's not toxic and inconsiderate towards the person she claims to love so much, I don't know
what is.
Honestly, after finding out all this, I started to dislike the elf for being so cynical. So much so that I haven't even watched her new epilogue yet,
She went from being one of the potential most beautiful romances for me, like Tali'Zorah's
in Mass Effect or Morrigan's in Dragon Age, to being the most toxic. I just wish the writer had made it clear from the beginning of Act 1 that this was going to be the elf's behavior,
so I wouldn't have wasted time with her in my first playthrough.
I doubt Larian will do anything to fix this, honestly, although I would really like them to.

Yeah that's true, it doesn't help that the writer for both of them is the same person either (feel free to make some conclusions on that). Honestly if they made it clear that she was like this in the beginning I wouldn't be here complaining about it at all. In fact I'd say to anybody complaining: "Well what did you expect?".

The thing is that the way she acts contradicts her previous behavior so much it's like they are two different characters entirely. It's like in those moments you are warped into a porn universe. For example, at one moment you are studying in class then the next your (to your knowledge) normal teacher calls you into their office for "detention".

Halsin initates this banter though, thats the thing. Yes, interaction is stupid, for sure and should be tweaked for sure.

Also she doesn't show any interest in Halsin if she is unromanced, which is funny(Halsin doesn't show any interest in her too).

When a guy you know flirts with your girlfriend, it's clearly his fault, but when your partner doesn't reject it, or worse, flirts back, it's her fault. If Shadowheart had said something like, 'No, Halsin, don't worry, I've learned to swim because I had a good teacher,' then that would have been fine for me. But no, suddenly it seems the elf forgot how to swim and needs a muscular lifesaver to prevent her from drowning (oh, poor thing). It's obvious that all these interactions are because the writer for Halsin and Shadowheart is the same person, and clearly, the author had a fetish for wanting to sleep with both characters he created in the same game. That's why I've always refused to let the same person write more than one character because it causes them to lose objectivity and start including this crap. Shadowheart had already said she didn't like sharing because she didn't want to be a spare lover, but now it turns out she has no problem sharing with Halsin? (It turns out the elf is a bit bipolar too).

Yes, I already knew that Shadowheart and Halsin had the same writer. That was the only logical explanation for the sudden inconsistency in the elf's behavior, who one moment refused to share with characters of origin but then abruptly had no problem sharing with Halsin. It's funny because the writer didn't even bother to hide the inconsistency or provide any valid justification for that.

Yes, but at least it's a flirt in the context of threesome or smth. Don't get me wrong, it is still stupid and should only occur when you romance both(assuming this interaction is there to stay anyway).

I don't know why this is even still being discussed. It's obvious that the writer has no intention of ever changing their interactions at this point so either decide to ignore it for the out of character garbage it is or just do another romance. Personally I chose the former and was rewarded in the epilogue.

Honestly... I can't understand why this is even a problem. In real life something like this wouldn't happen or do people here take their girlfriend and buddy to a brothel? And then you also want to sleep with twins and your girlfriend at the same time? Initiate the whole thing in front of your friend and then get upset because he asks? And how dare the girlfriend disagree with all this nonsense? What a topic...

So we pretty much pretend that encounter is just 3rd rate smut some 2nd rate bard writes after Baldur's Gate is saved? I guess that can work.

Thats why it should be tweaked one way or another anyway. If situation is already stupid, that doesn't mean you should ignore the whole sequence and put some w/e shit in there(just because situation is already stupid).

That what we do for now. At least epilogue helps forget this "shitshow".

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