Revealing Astarion's evil past as a Magistrate, which will make his story deeper and give a better understanding of the character. This will be especially interesting for the path of evil. Honestly, for me, his story doesn't work very well without it. I wish his quest had been deeper anyway, with complex morally gray issues. I'm only hoping for the dusty pages. In Cazador's safe\in a castle\somewhere that he kept as a keepsake because he was obsessed with Astarion, that little detail about his past made him laugh. Or any other way.
It also has romantic potential. If you add dialog that the player found out about it and decided to tell Astarion. I think there should be several versions here - before the ritual, Lord and Spawn. I'd like to answer in all cases: "I see and it doesn't change things. I love you". There should also be an option to reject the relationship, even the option to read Astarion's mind, his thoughts.
I've been thinking about a potential scenario like this too and would love to have this in the game! I can only imagine the tough conversation with Tav and him having to admit that he'd manipulated them into helping him out and if they'd known about his past, they'd have looked at him differently.
Originally Posted by LiryFire
Early Access
And I'm just going to ask for scenes back from EA that literally change nothing about the character's understanding, only expand on it, and do it perfectly. I haven't played EA, but I understood Astarion like I did. Then I found the EA scenes. A completely harmless (well, when we're talking about Astarion ThInG) scene-talking after the barn, or after Mayrina. Maybe the scene in the mushroom colony, but um-m even it didn't surprise me. So to see these great tiny scenes in the definitive edition, for example, would be wonderful.
I bought the game in EA but didn't play it then and now you got me curious. I'll have to check these scenes out.
Originally Posted by LiryFire
Let's go back to the scene after the ascension.
So It's understandable why relationships end when he's rejected. It's not clear why the relationship ends when player refuses to "get on knees".
This scene looks kind of like a joke to me. 'No', 'Yes', 'No', 'K bye then!' I think they should get into a proper, angsty discussion there.
As for his motivation - I think there are multiple reasons. He's still so high on the power from the ritual that he's doing it for his own pleasure to fulfill his domination kink. Also as a way to test the water to see if Tav would be obedient and to set the mood for the relationship going forward. Moreover, since he's making it clear that he wants to be the dominant one, it seems to be his way to bring Tav down to his level and a display of full acceptance of him. He still sees them as a better person than he is (the insight check about degradation, which actually talks about continuing the relationship with him). When he admits he wants what's best for Tav too he's clearly lying, because he believes that for them it is to be with another - someone nicer and not a monster like him, who'd manipulated them from the start and possibly even groomed them to join the dark side. If he's to be Tav's lord, they cannot be better than him, equal at best. Thus, it's a small act that actually has a lot of meaning to him, and if Tav doesn't humour him, then they reject the whole premise of their relationship as two vampires.
Originally Posted by LiryFire
Ahem, and speaking of the Drow Supremacy. They have a very strong matriarchy. Astarion has ascended, has not forgotten the history of Faerun. He offers to kneel to a Drow woman. 99% she has to refuse, well 90%, and his response is only seen to me as "I had to try, okay" (assuming she agrees to the rest). And if the Drow woman agrees Astarion will probably make one of the most satisfied faces he can.
I think he should always force it, even more so with a drow female for the extra smug satisfaction. He could even make a chuffed remark about it to give playing a drow something unique.
Originally Posted by LiryFire
Thank you so much, Ametris, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Thank you too, LiryFire! Enjoy these days as well!
