So, I was visiting the Drow twins with romanced Gale and I think the dialogue is exceptionally poorly handled with regards to him. The PC is forced to be mean - bordering on cruel - to Gale without being given an opportunity to be considerate of his feelings. By comparison, when you are in the same situation with Pre-Cazador Astarion, who also objects, you can be nice to him. So why is this apparently out of the question for Gale?

The text selection after listening to the twins’ offer reads as follows:

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The first option is pretty stupid because it treats Tara like a pet. Anyone who has spent a bit of time with Gale knows that Tara is more of a maternal friend to him, who also frequently gossips with his mother. She is basically his cat-aunt. It makes sense that he might not want to have her in the room. Disregarding his objection does not only make the PC seem unkind and dismissive of Gale’s feelings, it also shows that they probably haven’t paid any attention to him before either. By contrast, the way the epilogue addresses this topic is very sweet. Gale has different reactions to the PC depending on whether Tara is around or not and during the kiss, she averts her gaze and cleans her paw. The epilogue has the air of playful, teasing banter that most of Gale’s romance has (and he even has good comebacks for the more teasing lines) while the brothel scene just feels heartless.

The second option reminds me strongly of a line from Astarion’s Act 2 romance dialogue: “You should learn to enjoy sex for your own pleasure, and you should enjoy it with me” where it clearly is a horrible selection, met with an appropriate outcome. Why should he? And why shame Gale of all people who is one of the most open minded companions of the whole bunch?

The third option sounds like the least offensive one but can lead to the worst outcome if you succeed - probably the one example where you want to save-scum to fail - and overall still holds disregard for his wishes.

So why is there not a single choice that allows you to show concern for Gale, his feelings and wishes, like a decent person would? It's not only mean to the character, it also characterises the PC in a very uncharitable light. I’d suggest changing the first option into some actual kind-heart teasing that is more in line with the usual flirty dialogue of Gale’s romance and give him a voice line to match.

Lastly - and this might apply to all romantic partners in this situation - there is no dialogue option that accounts for either the player or their character to have cluelessly bumbled into this part of the conversation without being interested in an orgy at all. An option that says “this is not for me” regardless of what your romanced companion desires should also be added.

Last edited by Anska; 23/12/23 03:42 PM.