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Originally Posted by Vua
Discontent? This poor guy is permanently scarred because he saw a Youtube of his video game girlfriend thinking about sex with another NPC. What would happen if he realized millions of other people are dating her as well and some are rolling around with her and that bear.

There is even the devastating thought that, left to her own devices and her own autonomy, she might choose to lavish her attention exclusively on the bear! Would that make the situation more, well, bearable or worse? It gives her love for animals a whole different spin.

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If SH and Halsin's child (adult) were our new companion in BG4, I think that would be really cute. smile

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They'd probably inherit an army of animal companions. It would be great.

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Originally Posted by Vua
Discontent? This poor guy is permanently scarred because he saw a Youtube of his video game girlfriend thinking about sex with another NPC. What would happen if he realized millions of other people are dating her as well and some are rolling around with her and that bear.

There is even the devastating thought that, left to her own devices and her own autonomy, she might choose to lavish her attention exclusively on the bear! Would that make the situation more, well, bearable or worse? It gives her love for animals a whole different spin.
Makes the whole new meaning to Daphne the milk cow. Also owlbear snugging on cold night, damn.

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If SH and Halsin's child (adult) were our new companion in BG4, I think that would be really cute. smile
Would be really random, since she shows no romantic interest in Halsin(unlike Karlach/Wyll pairing, SH goes her way and has 0 mentions of Halsin in game and epilogue). But you really like the idea of SH cucking Tav, so you do you.

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Who do we have to petition to make this happen?

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I find the unnecessary inclusion of romances in such RPGs frustrating, as they are always just a power fantasy and never narratively interesting, but I must admit this discontent is hilarious on a meta level, so I applaud the writer for his artistic accomplishment. I think they should write all romances in any future endeavours by Larian, hopefully in the same style.
Yeah I agree, let's turn the game into a mix of a cheesy porno and an embarassing Wattpad post by a teen!

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If SH and Halsin's child (adult) were our new companion in BG4, I think that would be really cute. smile
Would be really random, since she shows no romantic interest in Halsin(unlike Karlach/Wyll pairing, SH goes her way and has 0 mentions of Halsin in game and epilogue). But you really like the idea of SH cucking Tav, so you do you.

That's not possible, we're talking about a child and Tav is everything and everyone and the player's avatar with various romantic options.

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Who do we have to petition to make this happen?

They share the same author, only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by Netav
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If SH and Halsin's child (adult) were our new companion in BG4, I think that would be really cute. smile
Would be really random, since she shows no romantic interest in Halsin(unlike Karlach/Wyll pairing, SH goes her way and has 0 mentions of Halsin in game and epilogue). But you really like the idea of SH cucking Tav, so you do you.
I'd have to rewatch the scene, but I have done Sh's romance and she sounded interested in Halsing herself when talking about the possible threesome. So I'd not say this is out of character for her, based on my experience of her romance. But from the discord discussions I've noticed some male players view her as some sort of sheltered cloister girl fantasy, which I think is out of character for a Sharran. And I also remember, her early EA version was a bit different, but male players complained and the writing was changed.

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She is interested, she tells the MC too. I don't think that changed, it was about her dream.

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I'd have to rewatch the scene, but I have done Sh's romance and she sounded interested in Halsing herself when talking about the possible threesome. So I'd not say this is out of character for her, based on my experience of her romance. But from the discord discussions I've noticed some male players view her as some sort of sheltered cloister girl fantasy, which I think is out of character for a Sharran. And I also remember, her early EA version was a bit different, but male players complained and the writing was changed.

I think Netav meant that SH doesn't show interest in Halsin outside moresome discussions. It would be a random jump from including Halsin in an orgy with your LI to wanting to have his children.

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Originally Posted by Frog001
I think Netav meant that SH doesn't show interest in Halsin outside moresome discussions. It would be a random jump from including Halsin in an orgy with your LI to wanting to have his children.
Well, in that dialogue she was not interested in joining for a threesome. It sounded like she was more interested in the protagonist's experience and Halsin. And in general my impression of her romance is that Shadowheart was not always open about her own preferences. So for me that is not a random jump, and well, everyone has different experiences and impressions when playing the game.
Edit: to be clear, this is not the brothel scene, but the camp scene

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On a side note, I think it was shortly before release, when they stated in on of their commu?icty announcements, that companions would be able to romance each other if the protagonist didn't romance them. But then they quickly backtracked on that. So perhaps this was actually considered, but I doubt Larian would admit that now, because even with content that was obviously rewritten they now insist it was planned.

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Originally Posted by saeran
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I think Netav meant that SH doesn't show interest in Halsin outside moresome discussions. It would be a random jump from including Halsin in an orgy with your LI to wanting to have his children.
Well, in that dialogue she was not interested in joining for a threesome. It sounded like she was more interested in the protagonist's experience and Halsin. And in general my impression of her romance is that Shadowheart was not always open about her own preferences. So for me that is not a random jump, and well, everyone has different experiences and impressions when playing the game.
Edit: to be clear, this is not the brothel scene, but the camp scene

Well, in a playthrough without SH romance she shows no interest, so having SH/Halsin children would be random, because there is no setup. And in a playthrough with SH romance it would be quite strange, because not everyone wants poly romance.

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On a side note, I think it was shortly before release, when they stated in on of their commu?icty announcements, that companions would be able to romance each other if the protagonist didn't romance them. But then they quickly backtracked on that. So perhaps this was actually considered, but I doubt Larian would admit that now, because even with content that was obviously rewritten they now insist it was planned.

There are still Lae'zel/Astarion and Lae'zel/Wyll in the Tiefling party and in the epilogue
possibly Wyll/Karlach if two of them go to Avernus.

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It would be good if it was like DA.

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Originally Posted by saeran
But from the discord discussions I've noticed some male players view her as some sort of sheltered cloister girl fantasy, which I think is out of character for a Sharran. And I also remember, her early EA version was a bit different, but male players complained and the writing was changed.

I wonder if the whole issue would even be an issue for some if the number three wasn't a huge, brawny elf but ... say Alfira?

Shart's romance - or at least the early stages of it - felt very weird to me anyway. If you do not kiss her during the night the two of you spent talking, she disapproves, as if the PC was someone cast in a role of her personal phantasy. If you do kiss her, she instantly gets (or got in my version) a line about how she wanted to become a Dark Justiciar but now she might not have to anymore ... we haven't known each other for a tenday, darling? But I guess some really like this weird clinginess, and I can imagine that the whole Act3 brothel/Halsin thing might feel especially strange then. That said, the whole brothel encounter is best left avoided anyway.

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But from the discord discussions I've noticed some male players view her as some sort of sheltered cloister girl fantasy, which I think is out of character for a Sharran. And I also remember, her early EA version was a bit different, but male players complained and the writing was changed.

I wonder if the whole issue would even be an issue for some if the number three wasn't a huge, brawny elf but ... say Alfira?

Nah, I'd still feel the same about it. To me fantasising about a threesome with another woman is the same as fantasising of a threesome with another dude (gross of the writer to include). Anyway, why do you ask? Do you view it differently?

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Originally Posted by EdaLee
She is interested, she tells the MC too. I don't think that changed, it was about her dream.
Interested in threesome, yes. No romantic interest.
Interested in MC doing the deed with Halsin? Perhaps. But if you do, she doesn't do anything with him outside of brothel scene which is not connected anyway. No romantic interest.
When not romanced - shows no interest in Halsin overall, doesn't even propose herself in a brothel scene even if MC goes there with romanced Halsin. No romantic interest again.
That is why I call it random, even if you romance both, she doesn't even aknowledge him outside of 1 brothel scene. She even acts like he doesn't exist in the epilogue in all of her options(unromanced, romanced alone, romanced with Halsin).
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I'd have to rewatch the scene, but I have done Sh's romance and she sounded interested in Halsing herself when talking about the possible threesome. So I'd not say this is out of character for her, based on my experience of her romance. But from the discord discussions I've noticed some male players view her as some sort of sheltered cloister girl fantasy, which I think is out of character for a Sharran. And I also remember, her early EA version was a bit different, but male players complained and the writing was changed.
Yes, but even if you do engage Halsin romance with active SH romance - she does nothing and doesn't acknowledge him outside of brothel scene(which is not connected anyway to his romace).

Also what was her writing in EA? Just curious.

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I mean the future, the authors can write and create a lot. Anything can happen in future parts, children of the former companions could become the new companions for a new hero, etc.

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Originally Posted by EdaLee
I mean the future, the authors can write and create a lot. Anything can happen in future parts, children of the former companions could become the new companions for a new hero, etc.
Yes, but that would be random. Just as random as Halsin dying off screen. Yes, they can do whatever they want.

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If the former companions are dead or old or simply no longer companions, then it no longer matters. I would like to have something from them and the best thing would be their children as companions.

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