Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion Problems with Halsin's character, advances, LI and general character interactions, etc.

You are right about the scene, its up to imagination and I never really checked if it's the same only with her.
I just saw a YT video with the scenes and the talk before. If Halsin is not at the party, SH only says she doesn't mind sharing if the Tav is into it. If Halsin offers himself, she explicitly says she had a dream about this one or twice or even more. So they added this line which clearly shows she has this kind of fantasy with Halsin, or at least it feels like this to me. Why else would they add this line?

No, first she says her line about the sharing(which is good), after that Halsin goes with his inclusion, only after that she says her comment about thinking about threesome or w/e before.
She says she had fantasies about threesome with Tav/Halsin. She also doesn't try to squeeze in there if unromanced unlike Halsin/Astarion.

The video I watched was from 3 month ago and in there, she says the line about sharing and then you have to pay for the night. With Halsin, she also says the line about sharing, then Halsin asks to join and then she talks about having this dream several times.
She only says this line if Halsin is in the party and offering to join, so her dreams she had once, twice [..] clearly is about him, not about just a three-/foursome with anyone, otherwise the line would've been with and without Halsin.

The other line about her dream once is in the room later on and that one is the same on both ways.
Maybe this scene got fixed, I don't play the whole game again each patch.

Well, she first agrees and says her line about the "sharing", only after this Halsin proposes for little extra company, to which she responds about her having thoughts about this(in the context of little extra company), which reads into threesome(or more than that) including Halsin and, obviously, Tav. This is proven later when she says about "dream" and this line exists both with and without Halsin, which means both Halsin and Tav was present there. Anyways,

This is what I mean, basically. She had several dreams about a threesome (or more) with Halsin and the Tav (in the room itself it's just "I had a dream....once"), but before being in the room, she doesn't say anything about several dreams if Halsin is not involved.
So the writer had some intention adding this line just if Halsin is involved, maybe to emphasize her being horny for Halsin. Most likely because it adds another chapter to the "Sex symbol Halsin" book.

Other than that, we both kinda said the same stuff.

Yes, but it goes in context of "including" him, anyways it reads like this at least for me. If you read it your way, it's much more darker.

Thats true, the writing is somewhat ambiguous and that's not the only scene like this. This game has a lot ambiguity, maybe for us to talk about if on the forums.

We will stop brining up Halsin's disgusting behaviour and writing when it is fixed. Hope that helps!

Alright then, lots of us have experienced the unwanted advances from Halsin confusing whatever minor interaction our characters have with him as "treating him like a lover". Fine, unwanted advances seems to be the trend of romance in the game. That can slide. If you and Shadowheart wanna try some prostitutes out, that isn't Halsin's business unless he's been specifically invited. He already knows that you aren't interested, why is he asking again? Because last time I checked, just because a couple wants to try some prostitutes/open relationship doesn't mean their bed is open to absolutely everybody. Especially the one one of them said "no" to. Since it's been established that there are no secrets in the camp with everybody knowing your business for some reason, Shadowheart also knows that you don't want to involve Halsin. She should respect that, just like how I'd assume that you wouldn't go through with the orgy or chew her out for not being okay with it either (basically: "Tav disapproves"). Hence the disrespect this creates.

Not to mention, with the way she acts outside of the the brothel you would never know about this at all. If she were written to be the type to obviously be into swinging, orgies, and whatever, many of the threads and feedback posts complaining about it simply wouldn't exist. I know I wouldn't be here. If a mono romancer of hers found out about it (Indirectly, like a youtube video. This is literally me, I would've been blissfully unaware about it if I didn't watch the video) of course they would be unhappy, it's human. It would be natural if they took it seriously, just like how people took Karlach getting lazy shitty endings seriously. If you were poly/into having sex with everyone, I expect that kind of thing shouldn't bother you. However please try to understand why the mono players don't like it when they find out.

If you still truly don't understand it, then I don't know what else to tell you. We'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it at there.

You just know that if Halsin were short and unattractive he would have way more complaints against him.

It is just like this:


[img]https://9gag.com/gag/ajNwRqx[/img]

Well, this thread certainly seems to be treading a line like an old banned one…

On my first run I completely avoided this dialogue unintentionally between Halsin and a romanced SH by not going up to the Drow twins at all, wouldn’t another remedy be not having Halsin in the party when you talk to those two too if you really insist on having a foursome?


Isn’t this kinda avoidable content? I specifically avoid Astrarion’s evil romance because of this very issue.

the more popular ones, to be precise, like SH, Astarion

And that's the only reason why those two are fine with Halsin and Mizora.

I'll stop bringing up misogyny when replies stop being misogynistic. Hope that helps!

Some people seem to forget that this is just a game and there are options, nothing needs to be removed because they don't want to. There are enough people who don't have a problem with the twins etc.

Unfortunately, yes.
I had to start a poly romance with Halsin using my second Tav, a paladin, who is in relationships with Astarion, for scientific reasons - I wanted to check after-drow dialogue with Halsin in patch 5, wanted to see if Larian really expanded it and added this "trauma" thing (unnecessary expansion for even more unnecessary dialogue, IMO). And then I reloaded a save file and rejected Halsin.
So, from my personal experience (I've seen some scenes with Astarion and Halsin poly romance, so I was ready) I, as many other people, think Astarion doesn't suit for poly option. Yes, he says he's ok with Tav being with someone else and yes, maybe I am overthinking, but I felt I am betraying Astarion, especially considering what life he had before. My paladin is an ultimate good guy who is trying to show his beloved vampire there are good things in people. But this is my personal roleplaying. I think the same goes for people who romance SH and see what life she had before, there are many people who want to "protect" her and make happy, but in this case we have a writer, who wrote both her and Halsin and his hands had all freedom to do what he wanted.
To be honest, sometimes I think maybe John is not the original Halsin writer, considering how drastically poor druid was changed.

And enough people that do.