Originally Posted by Anska
Originally Posted by t1mekill3r
Is Mary K Karlach?

Naturally. She is basically a textbook example: The cute girl that everybody of the cast likes, who has no traits that are portrayed as flaws - or are at least they are cute and funny flaws, who cannot do wrong, who dies because she is just too good for this world and everybody is so very, very moved by it. Also, of course, she is pined for by the hot guy as exemplified by her - and only her - Origin having both Astarion's Act 1 and Post-Ascension Romance modified especially for her.

Originally Posted by t1mekill3r
Also, if you let Orin take Yenna, she turns Grub into shashlik.
Originally Posted by fylimar
Tbh, I never let Yenna get abducted, because then Grub gets killed and I like Grub.

I like Grub too but otherwise (unless my first save was bugged) Yenna dies, unmentioned and unmourned off screen. And since the kidnapping usually takes place sometime between meeting the Gur and dealing with Cazador, Astarion's comment about her kidnapping nicely ties the actual main plot back into the emotional main plot - dealing with the companions' loose ends. Probably makes more sense for Spawn-Astarion though.

Originally Posted by fylimar
And yes, Halsin and Mizora can open a Mary Sue self care group - Halsin Sue and Maryzora, the perfect duo

Telling them to go find a bush together would also be a satisfying way to deal with them - though I might love an option to threaten them with the orb even better.

Originally Posted by fylimar
Kagha would have certainly made for a better companion, though they only doubled down on races and classes liek that with Halsin Sue, because people are thristing for him.

More variety is another reason, why I hope Minthara will work properly soon. I am also very surprised they didn't add a bard companion, sure they do make fabulous main characters but they are also very handy to have as companions because you cannot buff yourself bardic inspiration.

Yenna never dies for me, when Halsin get abducted. And I rather have Grub alive than a comment from Astarion, pets trump companions, sorry, I don't make the rules, I just play by them biggrin

I don't count Minthara as variety, since she is just another elf (yes, drow are just painted elves for me). And there was supposed to be a halfling werewolf bard companion named Helia - and I'm still mad, she didn't made it. Though I love playing bards myself, currently a forest gnome feylock/swordbard.

I don't think Karlach that much of a Mary Sue - not like Halsin or Mizora tbh. They probably thought to make her a bit more special, because she doesn't have that much content as a late addition, so I think, it gets balanced out. And given how special every companion is, I can live with Karlach being more likeable and liked by all. I would think, she has to have special scenes with most romances,e specially the ones with sexual content in act 1, like Astarion and Lae'zel, since she can't touch them. So I wonder, does she have a different scene with LAe'zel too? And maybe addressing Shadowhearts kissing scene?


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