Everyone who romances him (in Act 1) has come to know and love this narcissistic impostor for who he is, or apparently not?
Absolutely right, just the way he is! True, I saw different sides to him, I wondered sometimes what he was like, whether he was as you describe him here, or whether he was a "wounded charming elf", that he was just embittered (and, hell, who in his place wouldn't be embittered?). Then I decided that all of this actually fit together nicely, Astarion's personality is multifaceted, he can't just be crammed into the narrow confines of an alignment.
Originally Posted by Zayir
Because most people suddenly hate Astarion for being evil when he ascends (did they forget that he always was evil?) or some people say Astarion "suddenly" becomes as manipulativ, sarcastic and narcissistic as he was when they started the Romance in act 1. Eh, yes? That's Astarion. That’s exactly who I liked. That's exactly why I started a romance with him and not with the nicer guys like Wyll.
Astarion was always evil. And I would not want him to lose this dark side, his sarcastic, playful character just to become this more serious, regretful, insecure boy that suddenly I have to protect. His divine sarcasm, his extroversion, his dominant narcissism - all gone in the (romance) scenes when you choose the good route. For me, that’s like a cheap novel happy end. Only the dock scene brings some dramatic in all of this, because now, not Astarion is mocking and saying sarcastic things about other people (like he always did before), but the others are mocking him, like poetic justice! (No, I don’t like this scene! But maybe that’s the reason why the scene was written like this)
I can't imagine what it's like to "hate Astarion". Surprised at first - yes, maybe even a bit shocked, but temporarily, it just took time to analyze and understand everything. He showed me his "tender side" in the second act, and I wanted things to be the same at first, but I certainly wouldn't want him to "become like Will" or like anyone else, to be regretful and sad. I adore Astarion's sarcasm, playfulness, narcissism, I just admire him when he expresses himself like that And the scene at the docks, I guess I'm grateful just for the fact that it made me want to kneel before Astarion. As long as my Tav is alive and able to hold a sword in her hand, I will never, ever allow that scene in my walkthrough. And I wanted to kneel because of the great motivation of "spite", for me it was a kind of "F...k the world", if they thought to break me with this nonsense, to make me let Astarion down because of stupid pride, they are obviously wrong.
Originally Posted by Zayir
The evil route is much better written and more in line with the Astarion I've come to know and love. It also gives him the power he always wanted to have. (He even says: "Of course I envy him, why wouldn't I? The problem Cazador did is, that he did it to me." - What a dark side it reveals!) Yes, I agree, he pulls you to the dark side.
I agree, the Ascend is better scripted, he has more lines, he has gorgeous animations. Perhaps this is his "canon" way.
Originally Posted by Zayir
Why do so many people feel awkward when they are asked to kneel before Astarion? Quite the opposite! Yes sir, please. He is great to be so dominant! THANK YOU LARIAN for his divine romance scene.
Well, it depends on the character of the person... It was just a real challenge for me, I hate submitting, maybe I'm too vulnerable and resentful myself. Another feeling of "injustice", I always respected Astarion, did everything for him that was possible to do within the story, and supplemented through gameplay (rings that allow you to take his damage, statue, better items, gold at least twice as much as Tav, collection of rare gems, etc.) I was always ready to fight anyone who dares to insult him. And it all creates a sense of deep injustice when you get into this scene with the first time. But when I did it willingly, consciously, with an understanding of what it was for and why it was necessary, it made me wiser, taught me to look deeper than my own selfishness had previously allowed me and to understand and feel Astarion better. So I too can say, "Thank you, Larian!" for forcing me to work on myself and realize a lot of things. After all, there is no personal growth without overcoming oneself.