Originally Posted by Marielle
"In the suffering of the lowly we find the consolation of our own suffering" (from Malus Torm's diary, not verbatim). Astarion loves kitties! (double approval when dealing with "His Majesty" in the Last Light). He approves when you take a little owlbear into camp and take care of it. He feels sorry for the hyena being bullied by the goblins ( approval for helping the hyena and "evil" approval for sending the goblin into the shadows, but he deserved it)
Good examples! I loved his Majesty! Such a badass cat. I never liked that Astarion approves in hurting/killing the squirrel or the bird in the grove. (Not that I did this)

Originally Posted by Marielle
To be honest, it didn't offend me at all. During the scene itself this question seemed completely inappropriate to me, I was checking it "in test mode", I think Tav could have asked it later, in a calm atmosphere, just for the sake of interest. It seems perfectly normal to me that a person doesn't trust me at the beginning of a relationship, that I have to somehow show that I'm worthy of his trust, because he doesn't know anything about me yet. Especially Astarion, who has gotten nothing but pain from the world ("I prayed to them all. No one answered"). One could make a joke about how he "tried so hard for nothing" - I really wanted to protect him without any "vulgar thoughts" and a little later Astarion decides to give the gift of a night with him to get that very protection - funny coincidence smile
In my playthrough I didn't chose this either, my Tav naively fell for him on the first sight, and I had the high approval confession scene. But this, I was talking about, I just looked up, is an option you can choose in the alternative "hug" scene after Araj. It’s interesting to see how he behaves differently on other options. He is even laughing about Tav, how easy it was for him to seduce Tav and Tav is looking so pissed off. Haha, what a Bastard.

Originally Posted by Ametris
Tav specifically asks him about events in his life. Link for reference of the scene. He looks like's hiding something.
I have the same feeling. In any case it's unpleasant for him to talk about it

Originally Posted by Ametris
I checked the game and compared it to the scene from patch 3 and you're right! Damn it, why did they have to change it? They also cut the time the camera focused on him, and it stays on Ulma more now while he talks, what the hell. The previous iteration was much better! Frown

Yes exactly- depending on the Gur scene, because if you haven’t met Ulma before, this scene is a bit longer - Astarion is seen less now! And I do not like some changes of the facial expressions. 3 examples, I'll add a picture. Left side is the old version. Right side the new version.

At the Beginning Ulma says: „Hold there, spawn!“ and Vampire Lord Astarion is laughing: „Spawn? Ha!“ and further:“ I am the Vampire Ascendant, (Pause) Gur! And I thought I was done with your wretched little tribe.“

1. When he is saying the word „Spawn?“, on the old scene he had an angry (eyebrows are pulled together and down) and only slightly disgusted (nose wrinkled) facial expression, but in the new version only a disgusted facial expression (no anger anymore, as if he had bitten into a lemon).

2. After this he said proudly „Vampire Ascendant“, he looked very self-confident (it also fitted with his voice) in the old version, but in the new version.. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!? A strange mixed sad-concerned-fearful expression. Oh please!

3. And when he says „wretched little tribe“, on the word tribe, he had that great proud self-confident laugh, and in the new Version? Only disgust! Helllo lemons again!

Who decided to ruin Vampire Lord’s self-confident facial expressions? I'm sorry if I digress from the topic, but if they continue changing Astarion's facial expressions into this, it isn't drawing to his dark side.

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Last edited by Zayir; 12/01/24 07:20 PM.

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