Originally Posted by Zayir
Who decided to ruin Vampire Lord’s self-confident facial expressions? I'm sorry if I digress from the topic, but if they continue changing Astarion's facial expressions into this, it isn't drawing to his dark side.

Wow, the comparison is really something. He does look like he ate lemons, lol. I think this deserves its own thread, these changes are nonsensical. First they censored his ascended romance scene, then brought back the steamiest part but still kept the whole body shot removed. They also modified his animation in the epilogue post-final battle and you cannot see his face as much anymore when he does his fantastic evil laugh - the camera jumps to Tav instead. Then they also altered him in act 1 romance scene during goblin party to make him look scared and worried. In patch 5 they also changed his behaviour when you're about to go with him spend the night together for the first time and he doesn't look as seductive anymore.

What's the goal here?

Originally Posted by Anska
The bat thing is adorable. And I can see the dance happening in the palace, I think it was you who posted Wyll's kiss with Astarion instead of Wyll in the other thread, no? That was cute too.

Indeed it is adorable! And yes, it was me. smile Astarion actually cannot be kissed in the palace, which is a shame.

Originally Posted by Anska
Wyll, Shart and Karlach's romances are overall not to my liking

Same. I don't like slow burns. I space out before Wyll even finishes his sentences and I don't know what he's talking about anymore. His flowery, convoluted speech is off-putting. I like SH but as a friend and Karlach had a good start but my interest in her as a character quickly fizzled out and eventually she started getting on my nerves.

Originally Posted by Anska
He disapproves if the kids get off lightly in the grove

He seems to like Arabella though. He's indifferent whether she's saved or not but in act 2 and 3 he's enthusiastic when he recognises her.

Originally Posted by Anska
Because she is cute and innocent and you are supposed to like her? I don't know. I could sooner see Shart and Karlach open a B&B for lost souls in the House of Hope too, but apparently unromanced Karlach and Wyll are a couple now. (Unless she meant "someone you love" in a friendly manner in the epilogue.) But, since the opportunity arises: I looked at the epilogue again yesterday and now everyone gets to see Karlach's Avernus ending, it got wedged in between the Morning-After-Dialogue and the Epilogue, where it beautifully breaks the mood and chronologically makes no sense. Poor Wyll got the Tav role and has zero agency, it's sad. He did her a good turn on the dock, he deserves some heroics too.

Ok, now you made me laugh with the B&B idea. ^^ Good I'll never see that ending in my game, because she's a MF choice fodder for me. She won't be in my pt after slaughtering the grove in my new playthrough either. She and Wyll seemed to be the closest so I guess it makes sense? Maybe they had a crush on each other but were too shy to act on it? And cute and sweet is not enough for me to like a character.