Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion The romance with Astarion pulls you over to the "dark side".

And how can you see the world if you can never see the sun?


Honestly, I don't like the ending, yes, but I don't consider him "soft" or "weak". He's strong as a person, "vulnerable" is a better word in my opinion. Well, if you put yourself in Tav's shoes, you'll freak out over him, simply because there's no way to not freak out over him under those circumstances, maybe it'll even be too "intrusive" to help, maybe Astarion will even feel bad about it. It still won't be the happiest relationship as a result.


Allergies is too weak a comparison, in my opinion. The spawn's condition is much worse than some allergies (unless you meant the metaphor and I just misunderstood due to my poor English).


But it works! It works in life, in any situation where a person is forced to be in a rather dangerous environment. After all, it's the kind of person who can survive when a character who is calm, harmonious and philosophical about the world dies. This "realist mindset" turns on itself as soon as you realize that the game is realistic, life-like and no one will give you a "sweet life" just for "good deeds" and for the fact that "you are so wonderful". I'm more referring to Astarion, specifically Tav, like, nothing is threatened, on the contrary, cackling and glorifying the "heroism" of the player character on the background of Astarion's misfortune only causes more anger.

And by the way, why is it that people like, say, Elminster, can have weapons, and quite powerful weapons, but Astarion can't? Why no one ever tells a high-level famous wizard that it's time for him to stop being afraid and put powerful artifacts on the shelf? Because he's "good" and he's supposed to? There are many "fighters against evil" on Faerûn with just such a mindset. And that's the order of the day. But Astarion has to put up with it, not to take power, not to return what he has taken, not to be able to enjoy all the pleasures of life like other people. Because he will otherwise become "evil"?


Mindset is mindset, and problems are problems... Trouble can come regardless of whether you are afraid of it or not. Trouble doesn't care about your level of personal growth, alas. Yeah, luckily it didn't kill him. Really, if I did get into that scene, it would have "killed" my Tav for me. Spitting on Astarion like that isn't even roleplay scrapping. It means ending the game by dismissing Astarion as a spawn, and not with my Tav, but with some other person's nasty bitch who was replaced with my character by "scripting arbitrariness".


That's nice Ametris also wrote that Astarion has a funny reaction if you say you're afraid of him. I'll have to watch that in "test form" if I can find a save close to that