Ha, and their life together with AA starts with a renovation at the castle, just like a classic couple should after a wedding.
Yes, he finally has something that he can give Tav and can provide for them. It's clear It makes him feel more manly, since it's something he'd struggled with as a spawn.
Originally Posted by Marielle
It's good that the writers don't try to deliberately deceive the player and "promise a fairy tale", the game clearly makes it clear that nothing good is going to happen (compare the entry in the diary about Astarion after refusing the ritual, and the entry about Will's father when he breaks the contract with Mizora - in the second case it's clear that the Duke can still be saved, but in the case of Astarion, it's like a very fat hint about the need for a reload).
'His fate is sealed' sounds very negative to me.
Originally Posted by Marielle
Originally Posted by Ametris
In the spawn path they are just as codependent, if not more.
Indeed, even more so. Astarion has lost everything for Tav, he has nothing but Tav, he is attached to her in some ways even forced. Tav is forced to help him and cannot leave him because, "suddenly he will be lost without her". After the Ascension, Astarion no longer needs anyone, he can get along fine on his own, but he wants to be with Tav. Tav has nothing stopping her from going her own way either, but she wants to be with Astarion forever and voluntarily agrees to be his consort. Dependency vs mutual desire.
Well said! If Tav abandons him, he's back to square one and has to figure out what he wants to do with his life once more. In the ascension path, Tav is simply part of his world.
Originally Posted by Marielle
Found some cute images of the Ascendant on the throne (and just in the castle) in my collection of Astarion pics too.
Fantastic images! ^^ He looks so cute with cats!
Originally Posted by Marielle
We can think of Maslow's pyramid, which describes human needs and prioritizes them in order of importance: (...) Without the fulfillment of the first two needs, the others lose importance. No one thinks about self-actualization when they are starving or in grave danger. It seems to me that caring for the one you love should include the ability to prioritize. You can't do everything at once, you have to do the main thing and then try to take care of the rest.
Thanks for supplementing my notion. It's exactly like you said!
Originally Posted by LiryFire
Originally Posted by Ametris
Then they also altered him in act 1 romance scene during goblin party to make him look scared and worried. In patch 5 they also changed his behaviour when you're about to go with him spend the night together for the first time and he doesn't look as seductive anymore.
What's the goal here?
Yes. Goal, defang?
I will be ferocious now.
The last thing I understand in this world is - Why does Astarion fear Tav, after choosing the goblin side? I chose the "path of evil", with a man for the "path of evil" and now Astarion is afraid of evil? Nonsense. That can't be, ince would need to be rewrite the whole character from 0, since he has lines about "massacre" even in act 3. He approves too much in Act 1 to be afraid of Tav, for a little terror in the grove. Which he himself wants and calls it fun.
Yes, it makes 0 sense, and they're definitely making him look less confident.
Originally Posted by LiryFire
Act 1 and Astarion in it – is a complete masterpiece, if anything should be rewritten it's Act 3.
True! Then again, Larian removing the scenes you posted... Why? Why would they do it? It's the little moments like these that help define a character and show team dynamics. I had a feeling something was missing right after killing Gandrel.
I found another scene that was deleted for unknown reasons (here are the two variations of it):
Originally Posted by LiryFire
There is a belief that the game will be different in 2 years thanks to patches and guessing definitive. I just hope Astarion remains a man who is comfortable with evil and immorality, a man for the "path of evil" - therefore the only male companion for that and keep that duality fancy predator, seducing to the dark side.
These recent patches are becoming worrisome. I really hope they don't emasculate and defang him even further.
Originally Posted by LiryFire
Astarion's interesting trait despite his neatness is that he likes pretty things - he likes to be a leader. It's absolutely fascinating. The way his bravery and savagery combine with "silk sheets", sewing, fancying up at the mirror, and back a nice sharp dagger, beautiful armor.
This. There are so many facets to him. It's wonderful!
