Originally Posted by Tharrow
No need to resort to namecalling. Halsin will not be in the brothel, and he WILL NOT be in the orgy, unless invited by the player to both scenarios. No sex without you not only asking for his presence, but having multiple checkpoints ahead of getting to the fade to black portion of orgy. Period. Player *must* ask him to join, and then pass through multiple checks on ongoing consent with the game, and only then will Halsin be present in the brothel scene.

This is what happens to get him in the brothel scenes: player asks him to join. Halsin will not be there unless the player puts him there.

Invites himself = he shows up in the scene without being invited by the player. Player invites him = he shows up in the scene because player invites him. When you say he invites himself, it means he invites himself. Saying, "he invites himself but I mean he doesn't invite himself and I mean he has reactivity to the environment/dialogue where he asks to participate but for shorthand I'm saying he invites himself" is a mischaracterization of the events and of his dialogue.
Friend, Halsin's behavior in the brothel is wrong. Look at Zevran's scene in DAO and see how things change, since there it's the player who invites Zevran (and of course, no one was offended and there was no controversy about it). This thread was born because the user didn't know that Halsin would suddenly say, "Hey, can I join?". The player shouldn't have to know this, especially when in Acts 1 and 2 there was no indication that Halsin would be like that. And when you put a guy who you've only talked to a couple of times at best, or whom you've already rejected, it suggests that the guy can't control his impulses and even implies that he's taking advantage of the situation to sleep with your romance option (yes, because Halsin only accepts when your romance option does, which is strange).

There was a similar thread on Discord a while ago about someone who had the same thing happen but with Astarion, called "Seriously, make Halsin less creepy in a sexual way". The post had over 70 upvotes, meaning it was one of the most upvoted comments. The user even says in their post: "In real life, I would kick someone like this out of my home and never interact with them again."

If you think Halsin's behavior is acceptable, that's fine. If you ask me, it's not at all.
PD: Even the guy disapproves of you if you reject him.

Last edited by Sobocles; 20/01/24 02:26 PM.