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#934946 07/02/24 08:00 AM
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Yesterday I had a fight in Szarr's palace which involved also a kind of werewolf. They are from the description immune to all physical damage. I had three casters and only Jaheira as Fighter, so not much of a problem. To the end of the fight I had one weapon throw of Jaheira left without good use, so I moved her to the remaining werewolf. I thought that at least the necrotic damage (it's the Sword of Chaos) would apply, better a bit than nothing. I was quite surprised that it also dealt the full 20 physical damage of the damage roll.

Is this a bug? Or do physical weapons which also have elemental damage overcome physical immunity?

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Do you have a screenshot of the description of the creature? Or the specific text? I just played through the palace and Lae’zel was able to beat up on pretty much everybody.

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I have a picture, the language is not English but you can see the symbol, and the German word "Immunität" for immunity is similar to the English word. It is not resistance but immunity shown.


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You see the symbol of immunity to all physical damages for the werewolf, nevertheless the creature was hit by Jaheira with physical damage.

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Is it immune to all physical damage or non magical physical damage?

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It is immune to slashing, piercing and blunt damage. The sword has slashing and psychic damage, and it applied it's slashing damage too, accordding to the combat log. So I wonder wether the slashing damage immunity is bugged. Or is immunity totally overridden if a weapon does some other damage (here: psychic) than the damage against which the immunity exists?

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The sword should be a none magical source too. If an attack does more than one type of damage usually only the one the enemy is immune against gets removed. There are things that counter resistances to none magical damage (Diluted oil of sharpness) but not immunity as far as I know. Did you click on the log to see the math?

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Yes, according to the log it applies slashing damage. Which is weird.

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A question: It says "from non-magical attacks" If the sword has a +1 weapon enchantment, is it still non-magical?

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Once upon a time, D&D made a big distinction between swords and magic swords. As an example, you could attack a Gargoyle with a sword and to zero damage but if you had a magic sword, you'd do full damage. I haven't studied recent rules before playing BG3 but it's possible this explains the mechanic.

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Could it be invulnerability as opposed immunity? When granted invulnerabilty through armor and such it gives you resistance to non magical attacks. But any magical weapon bypasses it and does full damage, and that includes just a +1 weapon.

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Originally Posted by LostSoul
Is it immune to all physical damage or non magical physical damage?

It says "non-magical attacks". I'm not sure if it explicitly means "non-magical damage" one-to-one, but I interpret it that way, and therefore magical weapons, perhaps even enchanted ones like Shillelagh, should bypass immunity, as others have said.

Originally Posted by Infinid
Once upon a time, D&D made a big distinction between swords and magic swords. As an example, you could attack a Gargoyle with a sword and to zero damage but if you had a magic sword, you'd do full damage. I haven't studied recent rules before playing BG3 but it's possible this explains the mechanic.

That's true at least for an AD&D example from the predecessor where it was the other way around: Magic Golem.

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I haven't tested it yet, but I also think that it means that if you take your Salami to a werewolf fight, it won't do you any good because it does not cause magical damage, just non-magical bludgeoning damage against which the werewolves are immune. If you however cast Shillelagh on it, you can trash the werewolves with your sausage, which now causes magical damage.

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