Thank you for the information! The bride lore tidbit is very interesting and would contradict and dismantle the whole abuser theme. Unhappy bride=unhappy lord after all. It really does look like that's what's going on in the romance scene, I only wish Larian fully clarified it in the game if Astarion can actually compel Tav, because they stay with him, yet we never see that red aura around them like we could with Astarion's siblings.
Originally Posted by DarkAngelBeckons
In my opinion, there are more ways to write a character than just black or white in a storyline, but that is my humble opinion. Please let Larian know your thoughts in feedback, not on the forums. Not all of us Ascended him for an S&M fantasy, but for us to be a couple that would walk this life together in a dangerous Talin with more to come from it in the future as a vampire couple. Also, let's not forget!!!! There are still a GREAT number of bugs in the game & many of these trigger signs have not come through in all playthroughs. So, please don't shame others for what they like or don't like. I just love the character but now the way they have made him, I can't play either Spawn or Ascended. I may never play again, I just don't know. Especially since the entire BS fighting and the attacking has become that much stronger. Also...on another note.....if they did this to one "evil" character, they will end up doing it for all. God Gale, Dark Justicar Shadowheart, Minthara, etc etc. Just watch, so please don't rub it into people's faces. It might happen to you too. Thanks for listening. Please don't bash me for trying to explain what some saw as potential in the story & what was on the screen of my game with its bugs & all. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Gunsumber
I'm also into the whole dark romance thing and I loved what they did with Astarion, so much that I couldn't get myself to romance anyone else in the game but with this new patch, as I've expressed so many times, I almost can't stand to look at him anymore, I hate his character.
Comments like these are sad to read. This was supposed to be a happy patch!
Thank you @Ametris for your kindness & appreciation of how some of us were thinking before the Patch 6 changes without judgment. I want everyone to be happy with their own choices in the game as well. Since there are opportunities that Larian could take on instead of going with a simple good vs evil storyline, I think they should at least understand what we who DO know the lore of the realm they are using, were thinking when they animate it in the way they did. Also, the writing/animation as shown up to this point, can be interpreted in many different ways without a clear concise set choice of only good vs evil. Does ascension only mean a true vampire that can walk in the sun? That is not what they clearly had shown in my particular playthrough. Nor do I find that the game is only one path of good or one path of evil. There is a LOT of gray in all the character choices that are not being considered. I also had trust in them to be writing for adults who know there is no such thing as always evil or always good, but more realistic type worlds would be always moving the alignment dependant on your choices plus the knowledge of what is learned during the journey. I thought they would do something a little different with the "Ascension" aspect instead of the old trope of just taking only a true vampire who doesn't have any problems with the sun and is going to have no emotions. If they don't want to be a little more creative with their "homebrew" decision, fine. I don't have to play into their no-choice scenario. It shows me that when they said they wanted feedback since the game is not as complete as they stated, then surprise! I won't buy another damn thing from them. I just fell for the player choices & roleplay like a DnD situation to absolutely no choice at all. Shame on me for falling for the lies if that is the route they choose, but the game was different when it came out up to this patch 6. There is a possibility that they might take some of the hope I had for them & apply it to improve the story they went towards, but if they don't....then it was me that was fooled. Plus there are still mountains of bugs where you get "continue" for dialog or a cutscene doesn't play or anything that malfunctions doesn't allow you parts of the story. I have tried to see as much as possible, and have played a huge amount of time up until the dreaded patch 6. Now, I will not trust them until they show the whole package of their "story" or "plan". I had a lot of hope, but I guess Hope did die on Patch 6 day for me. This is my opinion only. I don't want any blowback because I am EXTREMELY TIRED of the arguments & fighting. It shows me that the players can not have an adult conversation without being an adult. Everyone is entitled to opinions, I don't have to agree with your opinion, nor do you have to agree with mine. Instead, stop....think & wonder about possibilities instead of just saying only one road is the "right" way.
