Originally Posted by Sereda2
I don't think they fit with the narrative. It's definitely not in chacter for a Dark Urge to be so passive and terrified of him. Even on a non-Dark Urge playthrough, it's unlikely that Tav is going to be like that. Tav is clearly a strong character, they have faced numerous monsters and demons and triumphed, so these scenes just don't feel right to me.
Tav still has the option to break up with Astarion so it's unfathomable why they would submit so meekly to something they are not enjoying. They are not a damsel in distress and they've been an active leader in every other respect.
It's not consistent with Astarion's character to be so abusive. Elsewhere, Astarion asks Tav what they want and clearly wants to please them.

I too, would like to see Tav asserting more control here and looking like a willing participant. I do think it's in character for Ascended Astarion to play power games and try to dominate, but for me to enjoy these kisses I'd need to see Tav being more active (e.g. bite him back if spawn), and to get more out of it, making it clear they are indulging him and happy to play along up to a point.
Can't agree more! Just like you said, Tav and Dark Urge are not such weak and passive character. I don't know if Larian is trying to tell players that ascension is bad (you'll get a bad lover) but players need more initiative and possibility, not be lectured.(if I express it correctly)

Originally Posted by Sereda2
I also agree that spawn Astarion needs a little more love. He is the most popular romance partner, if I recall correctly.

by the way I noticed that there's some new kiss voice for non-ascended Astarion in the file of patch 6,but haven't set in game yet (he's sooooooo sweeeeeet!!!!) I hope the next patch will see them, and new kiss animation (please don't screw it up Larian!)
After defeat the Netherbrain, the comments of Astarion's teammates when he was hurt by the sun, and everyone became more sympathetic, What touched me the most was what Minthara said: "Astarion is cursed to flee the sun as I am cursed to walk in it. Do not belittle him with pity-he is a survivor, and will thrive upon what bounty the darkness provides. There is life in him yet.”