Originally Posted by rendemption
I hope you've been sending these to their emails to bring it to their attention. Would you mind if I shared the link to your videos/pictures on another platform? More people need to see this.

By all means feel free to use the videos/images for whatever you want, no need to ask me. All I care about is Minthara getting the love, care and respect she deserves from the developers grin

As for the emails; haven't sent a single one, a waste of time. These single post issues I'm posting here on a daily basis are just to highlight all of Minthara's issues and keep the discussion going. My primary focus remains solely on finishing my mega feedback list which I am visually formatting to include all of my videos/images posted here, so it looks nice and proper once it's live.

I was planning to finish it and post it as its own unique thread this week, but this stupid bug with the Emperor dialogue is blocking me from recording the footage I require. So in the meantime I'm just arming myself with my own memes to remind Larian of their mistreatment of Minthara.

Originally Posted by rendemption
They've been sidelining Minthara for months now but every time I complain somewhere, I get someone who tells me that she's a non-origin character and that it's delusional to think she should get an equal amount of content as others. By that logic, everyone who sent in suggestions for Minthara and Halsin to be a companion during EA is also delusional - but Larian still listened, so it's irrelevant tbh. I get a little annoyed when people are oblivious to, or worse ignore, the fact that Minthara is nowhere near finished as a companion by the game's own standards and think this isn't valid criticism.

Those people are unfortunately just oblivious and have no clue what they're talking about.

Everything the community has been bringing up for years now and everything I've personally listed is the BARE MINIMUM she requires so that as a non-Origin companion she does not have inconsistencies, missing content, lackluster unsatisfying content and outright false narrative that doesn't take into account player's actions. That's her bare minimum so she can be a solid non-Origin companion with established equal treatment and in-game logic of other characters.

Originally Posted by rendemption
With that said, I do acknowledge that Larian is trying and have been making improvements to her as of late. So, saying they've put "zero" care and attention to Minthara is doing them some disservice. At the same time, I understand the positives quickly get overshadowed by major bugs like the one that's been introduced in Patch #6 where she spoils a very important character reveal for everyone.

The reason why I say they've given her zero care and attention is because it's true, especially when you compare her to Halsin or her side with Halsin's side. Naturally that doesn't mean Larian NEVER did anything for her, but in the grand scale of things what they do is NOTHING in relation to what she is missing and what she needs and what they do for other companions. 7 months in and she still does not whatsoever even meet the bare minimum quality standard set by other companions, as she does not even have her basic content available that every other companion does.

I've been here since Early Access and I remember all of it like it was yesterday. I've been here advocating for equal treatment of both Halsin's and Minthara's sides for over two years. Halsin's side got EVERYTHING, while Minthara's side remains exactly as it was during Early Access. Buggy, unfinished, broken in some places and entirely unreactive to player's own choices/actions.

They have not looked at Minthara nor her side of the story since Early Access, instead just patched together the bare minimum to ensure it plays its own railroaded short-term narrative that doesn't react properly to player input and abandoned it since. They also cut out most of her actual content due to rushed development, including her pregnancy which was fully voiced. So these mere content breadcrumbs thrown at her each major update are not nothing when she's missing a gigantic amount of her most basic content. Content which she would have had if the game had not been rushed and Larian paid attention to her side of the story (not counting the epilogue naturally).

Meanwhile;

  • Ragzlin still does not have his vision with Ketheric Thorm in the game (only Gut and Minthara have theirs)
  • Ragzlin still refers to female characters using voice lines intended for male characters
  • Sazza still teleports away right in front of you if you already visited the Goblin Camp and rescued her after the fact
  • The Goblin warlock at the camp celebration is still using her Early Access voice line referring to the Absolute as a male
  • And naturally all the previously mentioned issues tied to Minthara


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Does this deserve praise? Is it disservice when they've so blatantly abandoned Minthara to the point she has just one greeting line, no relationship dialogue and zero romance scenes as a love interest? Is it disservice when they can't even put one single intern to playtest it and collect all the issues so they can get fixed 7 months into full release? Nah, this is me giving them fully deserved critique on an aspect of the game they absolutely abandoned and quite obviously do not care about.

If you want me to speak plainly; Minthara as wonderfully written as she is, as a companion is an utter development embarrassment along with her entire side of the story. Uncared for, unfinished buggy mess patched together with scrap that's clearly not been playtested by anyone in the studio for the entirety of full release. Because if they actually cared about Minthara or her side of the story they'd immediately notice the blatantly obvious issues and inconsistencies and FIX THEM already.

  • We would not be 7 months in with each update breaking Minthara.
  • We'd not be 7 months in with Minthara still not having her most BASIC content available (no personal quest, a single greeting line, no relationship dialogue and no romance scenes as a love interest), which Halsin as her counterpart does.
  • We'd not get an update in which Minthara is cripplingly broken AGAIN and spoiling the game for a month straight to so many people.
  • And we'd not have people hoping they could get at least one single update where she ain't broken in some shape or form.


Utter incompetence and utter negligence towards Minthara. They deserve to be critiqued and called out on it because they had two years of feedback from Early Access and 7 months of feedback from full release to act on it and do right by Minthara. At this point it's clear they just don't care at all because they did nothing with it, and that's why I'm here now on full blast with no holding back when it comes to criticism.

*I made this feedback image 2 years ago during Early Access to point out their absolute lack of care towards her. The only thing that's missing two years later is Karlach being on the list of lost content. Just further proof.*
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Originally Posted by rendemption
She now has the ‘Nightwarden’ title, which should be removed too tbh. I did some research and Nightwardens seem to refer to a group of clerics and paladins that are in service of Lolth. If there are any lore experts in here, feel free to correct that definition if I'm mistaken, but that definitely doesn't sound like Minthara either.

I just saw your screenshots, but I cannot confirm this as she always loses the Nightwarden prefix for me once she's a companion. Her 'True Soul Of The Absolute' title under her name naturally never goes away though. It could be a mod you're using perhaps, as I don't play with any and never had that happen.

Anyway apologies for the long reply, but know that I appreciate your comments. And thanks for that sheet, I actually did not know that Karlach and Wyll do not react to Minthara's recruitment. I'll be sure to record that as well and put it on the list grin