Originally Posted by autistichalsin
I have that user muted. Even if it is "just headcanon" (very convenient dismissal), the fact is still that while he was a sex slave in the Underdark, he would have heard about the most prominent noble House in the entire Underdark and would know what their deeds were. Like, say. Owning slaves. Like himself. Minthara has literal in-game lines about "my Duergar slaves."

Blocked me on Twitter, Tumblr and even here. Why am I not surprised you had me muted here knowing full well I'd be critical of your takes? To think, I though people came to forums to engage in discussion, not ignoring it.
It's not a "very convenient dismissal" given the nature of your actual fanfic where that "thread" is touched upon. Nothing alike is even implied in game.

I'd suspect most of Baenre House assets are owned by the house itself, or, say, matron and, by in-game's implication, Mithara's mother - Quenthel Baenre. Slaves are never referred by Minthara, however, aside her speech of using refugees in Rivington so they'd work for food/housing/security, however, her house obviously owns a lot of them. Say, her unique Act 1's mace "Xyanyde" was forged by said duegar slaves as description implies: "Cast deep in the Underdark by duergar slaves, the head of this mace is engraved with spiderwebs. It is ice-cold to the touch."

Slavery is a normal practice in Menzoberranzan. Not really a vile act in the context of a drow society. She, herself, didn't do all that much to earn any infamy, however.

Originally Posted by autistichalsin
1. He knows who she is without the brainwashing. 2. Minthara never showed that she can be good. The rest of the party did by helping the Grove and saving his life when there was nothing at all in it for them. She never even expresses sympathy for what he went through.

Her initial goal for coming to surface was to destroy the cult at the Moonrise for sacrilege against Lolth (they sent True Soul and couple of cultists to spread their faith at Menzo). Regardless of Lolth's nature, it was a rather honorable act. Ketheric and Orin tricked her, using her (and pretty much any drow's) weakness - ambition. Fact she's a paladin of vengeance, oath which tenets don't really go well with evil alignment also very much indicate she's capable of being if not good, neutral at least.

Originally Posted by autistichalsin
Of course the limit should be Minthara, who got the place he lived in for over 150 years sealed away from him for good. (Again- this only plays when the Rite of Thorns happens.) Losing your home is no small thing. If someone in our world entered some kind of fugue state and started a wildfire that burned my house down, I would still never want to see them again.

Rite of Thorns is Shadow Druid's fault, which was part of Ketheric's conspiracy. If it happens, Minthara fails her mission. She didn't cause it, not even remotely.

Also spoke to person who datamined that ultimatum, given the scripting, it ought to happen in all scenarios, not only when Grove is sealed.

Last edited by AlexZebol; 04/03/24 08:00 PM.
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