Originally Posted by Gunsumber
Yeah... I'm sorry about that.... sometimes I "speak" before thinking. I have a habit of saying what's on my mind and it has had me kicked out of forums before. I am trying to behave here though. Really sorry about your thread, I didn't mean to get it locked

It's okay, it's absolutely not your fault. It would have happened anyway. Don't worry about it. wink

Originally Posted by Metarra
There is no reward for being loyal to your romance in BG3, which is a shame. Is this off topic? Not really, I think Shadowheart said it best, that Astarion is fragile when it comes to love. I think out of all the companions he is the least secure and needs the most reaffirmation of love from his partner. It's due to this insecurity that makes AA so keen on turning his lover ASAP so he can be sure they'll never leave him. Being loyal to Astarion should have positive effects down the road for both spawn Astarion and AA. Perhaps it allows for AA to be less controlling and allows spawn Astarion to seem more confident about your relationship in the epilogue.

"When you love, you don't want to drink any other water than that which you find in the beloved spring. Fidelity in such a case is a natural thing." Stendhal. It would be very desirable that the game story also takes into account the real feelings of living people, and not just the idea of "free relationships" and the calculation of commercial success due to the possibility of "trying all of them in one playthrough".

You correctly noted that Astarion is fragile when it comes to love. This is especially important to him. If the Tavs could make him feel how unique, important, and valuable he is to them, it might affect his attitude and his ability to trust the Tavs more anyway. At this point, the game still can't force us to cheat on a lover (god, I hope it stays that way and we don't get forced sex with a bear, crocodile, or some other ram in the next patch), but fidelity is completely disregarded. Although it's an important aspect of a couple's relationship that can't help but affect the mutual intimacy, self-perception and confidence of the partners in the relationship.

Originally Posted by Ametris
I'll give another example: Halsin asking you out. Astarion being so fragile (which is also mentioned by Minthara), how he reacts to the proposition, and how terrible it is in relation to Astarion's story and his issues makes the Halsin interaction completely disgusting and I wish we could tell him (as I said in the OP) that we only care about him and just wanted to gossip with him. That moment in particular needs extra content for affirming your devotion, seeing how he was internally agonising over Halsin having the hots for Tav, ogling them and waiting for the "right" moment to insert himself into the equation.

It would be cool if he had a reaction to you turning down Mizora's offer too.

Yes, so that you could say something to Astarion along the lines of, "This druid seems to have fallen from the trees too often in bear form... But don't worry, my love, Orin will give him a little therapy soon." smile Basically, something humorously ironic, or indignantly serious to cheer Astarion up rather than add to his worries. And, of course, a similar response for Halsin himself, because right now I can only refuse him without explanation. Maybe if players could refuse Halsin verbally as they would like, they'd be less likely to want to kill him and his entire grove in the second playthrough? That would smooth out the impression of his brazen solicitation somewhat.

Originally Posted by Ametris
Originally Posted by Zayir
In the bedscene Tav smiles and is happy, and when Tav is out of the bed, he suddenly has a really sad face. Ahem. smile I guess, just a little bug.

It's intentional, Tav had a neutral, even rather positive face in that moment in patch 5.

I second the suggestion of changing Tav's facial expressions! I really liked the scene on the bed, the way Astarion looks at Tav, and the way they hold hands at the end of the epilogue. <3 I had a happy face at that moment, during that whole scene. Please fix this little intentional mistake with my Tav's facial expression so it fits the situation as well!


One life, one love - until the world falls down.