Originally Posted by Halycon Styxland
I am far from religious about games using D&D, however I absolutely love the enormous flexibility that comes in regards to character creation if you have a system as complex as D&D.

The only games I know that can compete with D&D in this regards can be found in the MMORPG sphere. If developers get years of data and finetuning to perfect a rulesystem, some true rulesystem gems can be created.
Sorry but no. D&D 5e is the poster-child for a dumbed-down, over-simplified and superficial character creation system. Even just within D&D, 3.5e is far more deep, complex and sophisticated, as amply demonstrated by the awesomeness of character creation and development in the Pathfinder games. But even better as a deep and complex system is that of the PoE games, which for me is by far the best out there.