Originally Posted by Marielle
I wonder what was wrong with the option "Death of DU - end game and restart", as it was with Bhaal's son in BG2? The other companions can be resurrected - the DU can't, it's perfectly logical and consistent with Lore. Unless the need for the idea of "redemption", which is particularly ridiculous, since Bhaal in this case completely takes his own - and blood, and power, and soul. But Jergal somehow manages to trump Bhaal, and bring the "redeemed" back to the world of the living.

My personal opinion is the following: they didn't want their "Original" characters(Halsin, Astarion and Shadowheart are different mixes of Viconia and Sebille wannabes) to be outshined or percieved as "weak", so, instead of making this a torch passing ceremony, they changed lore and events accordingly so that it comes as the torchbearers being beaten to a pulp and the torches taken by the new ones... the old evil characters are used as punching bags and purposefully character assassinated to elevate their originals and make people who don't know them, either hate them or be indifferent. It's a really disheartening treatment, and even tho i don't like when this sort of thing is done, it kinda does make me wish they get treated with their own medicine in case a next "BG" comes out, cause maybe at that point they might understand what other people meant(I have managed to convince two of my friends to understand what i mean and admit those characters aren't even the same... but i also have failed with others cause no matter how much context i provide, they just don't care). I called Durge fanfiction cause... there can't be Bhaalspawn around since Bhaal is not a god anymore, and giving his own powers to others(weakening himself) is not just out of character for how crafty Bhaal actually was, it is also extremely dumb cause it contradicts quasi-god lore.

Originally Posted by Marielle
Yeah, but the game instead has some ritual that Jaheira never used, which does nothing but create an excuse to blah blah blah about "how bad it is to be immortal". Then it sits in your inventory without meaning or use, like unfinished content that will probably never be finished. Well, and delivers separate lulz when Karlach after the death of Gortash screams about how she wants to live, and asks "do I have a magic wand in my backpack". Well kinda there is, and kinda doesn't work... It would have made a lot more sense to give Jahaira a Timeless Body than to introduce this pointless something into the game. I'm even glad I disliked the local Jaheira so much that I never took her with me, except for doing her quest and the Minsc quest, and didn't hear that blood transfusion line from her.

I get the blah blah immortality "bad", as it can be a curse... it'd be interesting if Jaheira had that problem cause of Khalid's death being the first step towards aging really slowly and losing yet another partner during those 124 years... but that's the problem, she doesn't experience it in the first place.

Also, immortality becomes a blessing if those you love share it with you, cause you can express that love for the rest of eternity.

Last edited by TheVanBumba; 09/05/24 10:27 AM.