Originally Posted by starryophonic
But first, he said something like, "For a moment, all I saw was the power I wanted" and I thought, wym, for a moment? You've been talking about this for weeks, never wavering that this was what you wanted.

Yes, exactly this. He's in full on copium and selling bs to Tav how he's healed overnight so Tav will stay with him.

Originally Posted by starryophonic
And second, the poster had to add a line to the end of their description like, "Tell me again how ascension isn't perpetuating the cycle." Why do you have to throw shade at AA and his fans like that? Who does that serve? Do you need to do that in order to make yourself feel better about the storyline you chose? Why can't you just post your nice video and not try to tear down fans of another storyline while you're at it?

Every time I hear arguments about the cycle of abuse I just roll my eyes. It's repeated ad nauseam. The same slogans everywhere. In case you're not familiar with my compilation of them (with 1 new line I couldn't add because of these forums not allowing edits of old posts):

THE HOLY WORDS OF THE UNASCENDED ASTARION CHURCH:

1. Ascended Astarion is Cazador 2.0.
2. You are continuing the cycle of abuse.
3. You failed to save him from himself.
4. He doesn't love Tav.
5. He lost his soul in the ritual / he's not himself.
6. You condone abuse by liking him.
7. He's toxic, I feel for you because you'll likely end up in that kind of relationship in real life.
8. He's trapped forever.
9. You are his Spawn, he is your master, he controls you!
10. AA should be killed.
11. You are delulu if you believe he cares, he's a monster.
12. You are nothing but his dog / slave.
13. If you loved him, you wouldn't choose to ascend him.
14. Astarion has so much content in the game and it's your fault.
15. You requested this / you asked for this.
16. Don't be emotional because you are not human.
17. Alt + F4.
18. "Evil" is "Bad".
19. This is why women should not be allowed to play video games.
20. You denied him healing.
21. You need therapy.
22. AA fans are media illiterate.

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Originally Posted by starryophonic
By the way, I finally sought out and watched the UA dock scene and UGH. Awful. Even if there was absolutely nothing I found fault in the rest of the UA path, that alone would be enough for me to make sure he ascends. He just looks so broken and humiliated.

He's still broken in the epilogue. He's smiling but you can see how insecure and scared he is that you'll dump him. He's also acting like the graveyard scene never happened. And then in the epilogue party he's behaving very theatrical, which he does when he masks his real feelings.

Last edited by Ametris; 10/05/24 06:03 PM.