Starryophonic: They tell you,what they do. They take them in again, because they are their children. And they do take them in in fact. Two of the children are Gandrels btw., so he has a very personal reason to find Astarion.
Okay, that's what I thought. But my point was more that, in the ascendent route, Tav and AA have no way to know they'd do that. And I think if the Gur did say, "We'd have taken them in if you just allowed us to," they would have either assumed they were lying, or assumed they were hypocrites.
I think Ulma's dialog in the after ascendent scene could have used some fleshing out in any case. She makes some vague allusions to "the better road," but it would have been better IMO if she had stated more concretely what she's mad about. "You let our children die. You ascended." I can make inferences, of course, but I'm just saying it feels underdeveloped.
I never did the ascention, but if you meet the Gur before doing Cazadors palace in Rivington, there is a dialogue option where they say, they want their children back. It's even more heartbreaking,when Gandrel is alive. I think,you have to talk a bit more to them though, to find that out. And I don't remember the exact words, but it is basically said, they want them back on every condition ( they want to give them a proper burial, if they are dead), so I never thought, they would kill them, if they were spawn,but that of course was my assumption and the first time, I played, I didn't know, how cruel the game can be. I thought,we would get there in time, so that they are not turned.
Just so you have the context if you're interested...
After the ascension, when you try to leave the dungeon the Gur are blocking the exit. They will have killed all the servants in the castle if you hadn't done it yourself. Ulma is the only one you talk to. I recorded the scene and have it pretty much memorized, lol. She says, "I had hoped to avoid this path. I had hoped you would choose the better road. A fool I was, to ever think a beast like you could be saved." She also says, "We gave you a choice, and you chose power. As your kind always does." There are dialog options for Tav that allows them to sound like they're trying to negotiate for some kind of peace, but I didn't go that route so I don't know if it's actually possible. She doesn't say a word about the kids, though, which is why I feel like that bit is underwritten. Even when Astarion mentions killing the spawn, they don't acknowledge, "Oh, yeah, also you let our kids die."
