Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion The romance with Astarion pulls you over to the "dark side".

Yeah Astarion said so. I started to treat Gale better after that, but I thought that maybe these characters were meant to be antagonists, but that didn't happen, there were no further conflicts between them. Except that Gale is the nastiest in terms of biting - if Astarion bites companions, the others just cuss and give -1 approval to Tav, and Gale did something with blood, so Astarion becomes poisoned for a while and gets nauseated by Gale.


Yes, I had that line too, I just gave it in general terms from memory, thanks for the exact verbatim quote. I did understand it differently though, not as a condemnation, but to point out: “I wish I could say the same.” Also, Will made a sad face at the end of his statement. I saw this as Will not being able to say the same thing about himself, he is not proud of himself, he blames himself for breaking his contract with Mizora and sacrificing his father. That is most likely what his thoughts are preoccupied with right now, and what Astarion did is not that important to him. He rather stated the fact of what had happened, well, and remarked that Astarion was proud of himself. I even memorized that line wrong because of that. Or because of the localization there wasn't an exact translation which gave me the wrong idea, I'll have to load the save and see. So he did mean condemnation, and that he can't say the same thing, meaning he can't say he's proud of Astarion. In that case that line seems like a very pathos condemnation.


Yes, indeed, she doesn't seem like someone particularly threatening. But in combat she's okay, and her lines in combat I like. But she doesn't look at all like someone who fought in Averno in the devil wars. It's looking more like she was just teased and abused there, and that's why she's so reluctant to go there.

I only had Will give approval on the first Intimidation when Tav didn't kiss the goblin's foot. And when Tav made the goblin kiss her foot, only Astarion gave approval. And it's also very funny when Will gives disapproval for Tav finding out from the goblins where the captives are. He's such a simple guy - he thinks we should tell our enemies, “No, I'm not going to torture them! I'll save them!” Will, you're the Duke's son, you should have been taught diplomacy!


There was no such thing in other games at all. My acquaintances participated in some forum local wars, because of the strategy (sorry, I do not remember the name), where you could play, developing civilization along the path of democracy, slavery and something else third. And the players were divided, obviously by mentality, and democrats fought slaveholders on the level of their forums. But it wasn't even close in scale there, the developers didn't encourage or teach anyone, they just gave different development paths. What is happening now with Astarion in BG3 is like some kind of network warfare on the level of ideology, not the game.


Totally agree. I think it is important to bring information and objective criticism on all platforms where possible. Players can NOT play the game wrong. You can script badly, you can do bad scenes, you can have problems in the game, but it is impossible to play wrong. If anyone confuses the game with a platform to enforce their views, they are very mistaken.