Sini mentioned about Withers' line about mindflyers not having a soul. From what he said, it appears that there is no soul, but we have Omeluum and the Emperor. Is the Omeluum really a “soulless being” (even if metaphorically speaking)? The Emperor is perfectly rational, remembers his past, is aware of himself, has feelings (love for Stelmane), his feelings are somewhat different from the human feelings we are used to, but they are there. The change of personality after turning into an illithid can be explained purely physiologically - there is a transformation, it is already another organism, neural connections are arranged differently, the hormonal system works differently, it affects the character and behavior of the creature. The body has changed - the soul remains. At the same time, the character still does not turn 180 degrees - Karlach after ceremorphosis does not start eating brains from everyone in a row, but euthanizes the hopelessly sick and dying. When Tav sacrifices themselves and becomes illithid - Tav is a hero and well done, why doesn't anyone say that Tav “loses their soul” in this case? Withers has a whole line about that! And a much more specific and unambiguous rejoinder than in the case of Astarion. It's disadvantageous to the “idea of goodness and self-sacrifice”?
I think the game may be a bit unclear there.
If I understood the story correctly, the Dark Urge made a plan with Gortash to use the Ilithids' "grand design", control the Netherbrain with the Crown of Karsus, turn everyone into mind flyers and thus all the other gods no longer get new souls because Mindflyers have no soul. That's why Withers also says after the credits if Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul really believed that no one would notice their plan.
Sorry for my English, a mix of my English and Google Translator.
Anyway, today I watched a video from my last evil run, the scene where I accept Bhaal and become the chosen one. AA really spoil my story of the Dark Urge at this point.:( I don't know if chosing a different text changes anything, unfortunately I can't reset and test it out because I'm playing in honor mode, so it's doubly depressing that the story goes like this.
Become Bhaal's Chosen Until I get to Bhaal's temple and accept Bhaal's offer, the romance between the Durge and Astarion is fantastic... from then on... Actually, Astarion shouldn't leave the Bhaal Temple alive after what he says and kisses Durge like that. Especially since I wonder what OUR dirty little plot means. I know mine as Durge, yes... but what's Astarion's? He speaks from HIS throne, in HIS palace from where he wants to control OUR armies and the Durge can sit on his lap as his consort, not as regnant. That's not nice in the Dark Urge story.
Especially since according to Sceleritas Fel, my partner (in this case Astarion) can only continue to live if we produce spawns for Bhaal (which AA should actually be able to do again, since he is alive again). I think the entire story is for the Origin Dark Urge and Minthara. I've never tested it, can the evil Durge have other partners until the end of the game besides Astarion and Minthara? Because as far as I know, Gale breaks up with the Durge after the conversation with Gortash at the latest.
Last edited by Sini; 05/06/2412:37 AM.
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