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Let's move on here. Here is no direct topic, I just know too well how quickly one thought can jump to another and the topic then gets completely out of control Celesti and I have had very stimulating conversations so far, which may then escalate a little, but only a little. Of course, every other consort is also invited to let their thoughts run wild.

So sweethearts, let's chat away. Let's have some fun.


Celesti and I recently had a very light & funny conversation about the relationship between Ascended Astarion and Sceleritas Fel. Sceleritas Fel reacts very jealously of Astarion and what everyday life might be like.

Of course Sceleritas would want to kill Astarion, but he knows that by doing so he will unleash the Durge's wrath... but anything else... why not? Sceleritas will of course make Astarion's life as uncomfortable as possible and Astarion will not miss any situation to get rid of Sceleritas. Not without finding pleasure in it. For example, he will kick him off the cliff. "Sorry darling, who did I see? Sceleritas? Your servant? No, I didn't see him."

It could have happened something like this:



Our last idea was that Sceleritas could possibly be buried in the garden by Astarion.

"Darling, I planted you a new blood-red rose bush."
"I love it, thank you my dear *kiss* ... but have you seen Sceleritas? I call for him but he just doesn't come."
"Don't worry darling, he's probarly buried in his work. He's definitely nearby ... I'm really sure of it.


And of course the emergency when a fingernail breaks.

Ok, Celesti... just for you ... the next Part of the series "Astarion & his Consort at home"

You sit on a bench with Astarion at night, watching the stars, next to you the new rose bush.
You made yourself comfortable on his lap and snuggled up to him. Astarion first casually looks at his nails, then naturally takes your hand and looks at your nails the same way he looked at his own.

"Darling, do you hear that too? It sounds like someone is digging in the ground nearby."

"It's definitely just a rat, my sweet."

But ... but ... there are at least 4 or 5 Astarion threads already. Do you really need to open another one? There was a time , when mods merged threads, when they doubled and now they are quadrupled.

There are actually only threads about the kisses and Patch 6. That would be off topic and would hijack them. What should we do if we want to talk about topics other than those in the topic? What should I do to make you feel better? All I can say is don't click on these topics. If it's supposed to be put together, then that's just how it is, even if it turns every topic into an all-round topic into which everything is posted.

@fylimar, Sini opened this thread so that we won't be getting off topic on other threads. I saw that you were bothered by us talking too much about Ast in the other one. I agree threads should try to stay on topic but I see nothing wrong with Sini creating a new one here. Feel free to ignore it - I do the same with threads I don't care about.

And btw, the Funniest Things thread was only revived in the first place because Sini shared her funny videos.


I love this <3
I need to take a moment to think of a good one

You guys are way too cute..

My brain is throwing out the wildest things again. I'll check later in the game if it's possible and if I have a save there.

Hold on darling.

Another Astarion discussion thread

It's right below this one and you all are discussing there ...

I leave it to the mods to decide, if this should be merged or not. This link is jus tto show you, that there is in fact a thread discussing Astarion in quite the detail. I participated there and I'm neither interested in AA nor those kiss animations.

You already know that the thread has a completely different topic? I don't want to have fun there while others are talking about abuse. If offtopic doesn't bother you so much that you should write everything in one thread, then all you need is a thread called "Baldur's Gate 3" and everything can go in there.

The last time, I wrote there, abuse wasn't the topic, that was in the other AA thread in Suggestion & Feedback. And on teh last page you three were talking about how to get a special scene in Grymforge - so, yes, I do read threads.
I don't care anymore - knoc kyourself out, open another 10 threads about AA, do, what you want. I just made an observation, that is all.

If you had read it, then you would have known that Celesti and I were already offtopic there and we had left the thread and our conversation happened to continue in the Funny things thread. I would really appreciate it if you simply ignore threads that you find uninteresting. I hope we can just continue our fun conversation even if it doesn't suit your taste.

Have a nice day/night whatever.

Oh, this is just wonderful to read! Sini, Celesti, thanks for uplifting me! I'll have to check out the Funniest Things thread, I haven't even looked at it before. Because with all this stuff I'm starting to inadvertently forget that I once bought the game for the joy of it. Astarion looking at his nails is definitely his thing. He has very nice hands and graceful fingers. It'll be interesting to hear Sceleritas swear when he digs himself out, hehe!

I transformed Petras into Sceleritas... sorry Petras.



What did Sceleritas do to make Astarion so angry. Did he clean up Astarion's tent or his bed in the Elvensang tavern? ^^

When he asks "Will you come to my bed tonight?" A look into his tent should lead to a clear �NO�. Especially since he always complains about the ambience. At least a scented candle would significantly increase the ambience in his tent.

Not sure if this is off topic but I have to say Astarion is my favourite party member.

I�ve played the game multiple times and it wasn�t until I tried a play through without him that I realized just how much I like him.

In EA I couldn�t stand him (not a fan of vampires in any format and he seemed unpleasant) Upon release I included him often because a rogue is so damn useful. When I MC�d him with Gloomstalker Ranger he went again in my estimation because he is so damn lethal.

All that aside though what I have come to like best is his personality and story arc combined with the excellent VA.

I don�t romance Astarion as my character always goes for SH but Astarion always ends up as my best friend. My favourite character to play is Durge who rejects Bhall.
Astarion and my character end up with a lot in common and his dialogue is always sympathetic and supportive in a convincing way in regards to resisting the urge.

Today I completed a game where for the first time I slept with Haarlep and �gave� her my body. I thought it was pretty cool that Astarion had dialogue the next day when I remotely experienced Harleep �using my form�.

It�s just a game of course but the writers and VA did a great job bringing him alive in a believable way.

Now if they could just change the dock scene to something more dignified. What didn�t bother me in the past now annoys me �that�s my bud getting burned�not funny.

What can I do for you, my friend. Nothing is wrong here and as his best friend you are nearly family.

I have also played through the game several times, always as Dark Urge and with Astarion as a romance, my personal story always varies. In my opinion, the Dark Urge who rejects Bhaal is the story highlight of the entire game, I love him. But rarely...sometimes...almost always :), at some point it escalates and suddenly I control the brain or have to commit suicide.

Astarion and the Dark Urge are very well written and their stories are intertwined. But Astarion is so deep and funny as a person, that he's just fun to play with and yes, he is such a powerfull Gloomstalker, it's my favorite choice for him. As Ascended 1d10 Necrotic Damage extra , it's a joy to watch him as he can kill almost anything on his own. I like it when he jumps halfway across the room, it's so vampire style. But well... he's also fantastic as a monk. I always give him the Dark Urge's cloak, it's almost unfair in the fight, but it suits him so well.

I tried another romance once, it doesn't work for 2 minutes and I'd better go to Astarion again. The game then feels empty to me. Shadowheart is my best friend, she can always survive with me if I kill my companions and betray them if I'm evil.

He offers so much space as a person that you can describe him and his peculiarities & quirks in a funny way and everyone who knows him will recognize it immediately.

Omg, this was a brilliant idea. The scene with Petras getting grabbed by Astarion is a perfect moment for him and Sceleritas. Idk why I didn't ever think of that!! :p
Unfortunately for Ast, I think Sceleritas doesn't really mind being handled roughly like that, lol.
Ast: "Darling, let's spend the night in the forest tonight... I found a hideous vermin in my tent..."

This is true love: AA putting up with all of this BS for his darling.


Same here. Lol... I really tried romancing Gale the first time, I made this big effort... but then Astarion unexpectedly stole the show for me, despite myself.^^; I was not expecting to end up loving his character so much. It took a while but he grew on me, and now he's absolutely my favorite. Even though I've done the romance already, it would feel sad and empty to romance a different person. Maybe because you do get so attached in a way. Plus, I ship him with my DUrge.^^ And I'll probably keep using her again in the next playthroughs.

Some random ideas:

-I was thinking Sceleritas would annoy AA by always reminding him of the only reason Bhaal is letting him live: -Sceleritas scrubbing/waxing the floor conveniently there when he knows AA is about to wake up and walk out of the room, making Astarion fall prone. :p
-Hiding or smearing AA's hand mirrors or pouring blood over his vanity so he can't admire himself.
-Hanging up skeletons in random places where he knows it will jump-scare AA. xD
-Spraying AA's clothes with a sulfur scented perfume.
-Replacing AA's expensive wine with rat blood.

And Astarion always with this face when he's around:


P.S. Your Sceleritas photobomb idea (photobombing their portraits over the years) was the best. Still makes me laugh!! xD

They're going to change what the companions say when he starts burning so they're more sympathetic. Also the narrator will end the event on a more ...positive? note, saying he will "find comfort in the darkness". To me it's a band-aid fix and doesn't fix the real issue with the scene, that it's rushing through the event like nothing.

The new lines are almost OOC in how meta or therapist-speech-like they are. They feel so... awkward, staged. There needs to be a middle point. Gale has gone from being the worst offender (his original line was bonkers) to having IMO another bonkers line in the opposite direction.
"Gale: Astarion! Cured of one affliction, only to be reclaimed by another. The sun is no longer a friend to him, but we must be - he'll need more solace than shadows can provide."

Minthara also goes on a whole schpiel, when she's always criticised him for not ascending:

"Nightwarden Minthara: Astarion is cursed to flee the sun as I am cursed to walk in it. Do not belittle him with pity - he is a survivor, and will thrive upon what bounty the darkness provides. There is life in him yet."

Gale's is a little over the top but he is the character most invested in the whole party, and wants it to stay together. So while the wording is a bit much, the sentiment fits. Minthara's is hilarious though, because she so unapologetically roasts you during the dock scene and the epilogue when you stay a spawn as Astarion's Origin.

I have to say, now that I had accepted it as part of his characterisation, I found it incredibly funny that while Astarion cries if Gale dies, Gale didn't care about Astarion. Granted I still found his docks line incredibly, goofily out there (esp after Swen said they wanted us to get the impression that after the adventure the companions would go through fire for each other) but the idea Astarion's everyone's annoying acquaintance that they have to bring along was amusing.
Minsc being the most supportive in the old lines and then epilogue Astarion not telling him when he changes "lairs" so he can't find him... how ungrateful! Hamster man is bringing you sunflowers!
Jaheira's new line is very good, though. She says something like "rest now Astarion, but don't think that the city's done with you just yet". That's the kind of line I'd like seeing. Gives you a taste of future adventures.

Oh yes ... "What did I say, Mistress. Bhaal won't be happy. I told you what a fine partner Gortash could be at your side. With him we would certainly have a whole horde of bloodthirsty Bhaalspawns. But no, you wanted this strange guy. Why did it have to be THAT guy... ugh. Give me the order and I'll IMMEDIATELY find at least 10 partners for you, all of whom are better than THAT."

If I were Astarion, I would be wary of the idea of ??turning into a tiny bat when Sceleritas is around. It also goes the other way around and you find Astarion sitting in a cage in the attic. ^^

"Oh, has your vile servant seen your unworthy husband? He probably ran away because he hasn't sired any spawns for Bhaal yet. Shall I find you a new whorty lover? Sceleritas will do that for you immediately, even before you make the wish have spoken at the end, my lovely master."




lol Darling ... imagine:

You sit at the table like a family and eat together, you as the Dark Urge have a large piece of roasted dwarf... just dwarf... vegetables... ugh. Astarion spoons a plate full of blood like a nobleman and Sceleritas has a large bowl full of bugs. You sit there with your happiest Dark Urge smile, no one says a word...

Astarion and Sceleritas both look like this, so you know for sure that they've been chasing each other through the palace for the last few hours.



I particularly like the idea that, of course, Oskar Feveras painted their paintings... that gives a whole new definition of photobomb there. lol

I imagine Scerletias is standing there for hours in the same pose and of course no one notices him. This is really very funny...

We'll probably have to manipulate screenshots... I mean oil paintings.

I'm ofcourse bias, but he really is the best companion in the game. No matter if you want to conquer the world with him by your side, covering all in darkness or if you want to save the world, shedding light and hope, he is with you. And it's believable to do both scenarios. He really is a very satisfying character all around.
I love snarky, cheeky characters in general. His dark humour always makes me laugh, maybe because you shouldn't.

@Sini
How about this:

Tav is laying down for a rest after a long day slaying goblins.
Sceleritas is grooming Tavs hair. "My teensy talons will take out even the smallest knot, master."
Astarion is coming over looking displeased. "You really shoudn't let that ugly dirt-rat touch your hair, you might end up smelling just like him."
Sceleritas looks up, annoyed but not surprised. "I smell wonderful I have you know, like a dozen roses covered in blood of a thousand stings."
Astarion gives a crooked smile, painted with distain. "hah, more like an old boot worn by a dozen stinky old feet."
They both look with daggers at eachother over Tavs relaxed form.

Lol, that's a wonderful idea. Astarion doesn't like the idea of ??Sceleritas touching you at all. As soon as Sceleritas has left the room, Astarion brushes your hair again and secretly sprays you with perfume.

That wonderful implication that he was buried under the rose bush... I love it. Thanks my dear.

Recently in the forest...

One of my friends, who admitted how he was "annoyed" by the vampire theme in his time (perhaps because of the constant use of this theme in cinema, literature, gothic-rock subculture, etc.), recognized Astarion as the most interesting and unusual male character in the game as a result (also without a romance, he had a romance with Minthara). Perhaps it's because, Stephen Rooney took such an approach to creating this character - Astarion is a lively and unique individual, with a heartbreaking storyline, terrific humor, and scintillating lines. Stephen talked in an interview about how he didn't want to show a "classic vampire" because no one would be interested.


Well, you can probably imagine approximately what a player, for whom Astarion is the most beloved and main character in the game, might think about it. I'm very grateful to the "Fixing Astarion's good ending" thread, I wasn't yet a forum member when I stumbled across it looking for information on what happens next and if there's a way out of all this. OP of that thread described this ending in detail, I watched the video, in fact this author saved me from going all the way to the end, saving me from having to experience everything.

But this scene doesn't change the essence of things, it just emphasizes the attitude of the world to the "evil character". If you compare it to other games where you can do a companion quest partially, i.e. not completely fail it, but do it poorly, and get a rather bad but not fatal result as a result, this is it. The result of a poorly executed companion quest, this is how it looks like.


Yeah, that's right. A romance with another character, and Astarion will be around, you'll be able to see him, but... And he'll be unloved and lonely. I understand that it can be interesting to roleplay different characters and characters with different attachments. But I can't handle that kind of drama, I'd rather roleplay different characters in a romance with Astarion.:) I too didn't expect him to settle so deeply and thoroughly inside my heart when I first saw him. As you said so well, "Astarion unexpectedly stole the show for me". Same thing. And real unexpectedly - I myself didn't notice the moment I started to center my attention on him. During the bite, as he himself pointed out, when he asked me a date? Even earlier? I can't figure out the mystery of his attraction, it's some kind of magic.


"Find comfort in the darkness" is a positive note? Ok, I probably don't understand drama and tragedy, to me "positive note" = all is well, and "comfort in the darkness" is something along the lines of, ok, let it be in books and movies, with someone else, maybe it's dramatic, sad and heartfelt, but with my loved one - never. The good thing about AA's finale is that it's truly joyful and positive and there's no need to edit anything in it, even if you add some judgmental or scolding lines from the companions, it can't drop the positivity.


But it's great for creating the desire for an evil playthrough, without any emotional distress (as I used to have in games, when I tried to play as "evil" for the sake of interest, but couldn't handle it and failed the roleplay). Other companions also start to be seen as just casual acquaintances with whom I was brought together only by tadpoles, and this attitude works well with, for example, the evil DU roleplay. I'll be using this ending as a video to set up for some quality evil roleplay, which is fine too! It's pretty trivial to hang around within the confines of CG - CN alignment all the time, so I'm honestly grateful to this story, which I never got through (but I know it's there :)) for pushing the boundaries of perception and roleplay.

I think Jaheira sounds like a threat, and Minsc is either mocking or just a clinical idiot (the latter, he hardly has enough intelligence to mock), but that's subjective, I just don't like those two at all. If I were Astarion, I would change my "lair" too, of course - it's already hard enough for Astarion, and if Minsc finds him, with his sunflowers... Nothing special, of course, just kidding.


Ah, why is it that when Astarion annoys Sceleritas, I laugh, and when Sceleritas annoys Astarion, it makes me want to nail him, LOL. That's just so damn unfair!


Hehe, that's cute! A plate full of blood like soup?

Don't worry so much about Astarion. He's very smart and I think he would really enjoys Sceleritas. He knows he can't kill Sceleritas and Sceleritas can't kill Astarion, everything they do to each other is only short-lived and as soon as they get back they think about how best to take revenge. I am firmly convinced that they would protect each other in an emergency. (No, not a nail emergency )

In the depths of his heart, Sceleritas certainly loves Astarion too, but would never tell him or show it. He probably secretly cleans his hairbrush and when he thinks Astarion is fast asleep, he does his nails (lol). And when you sleep, Sceleritas covers you both.


Yes, a plate full of blood that he eats like soup.

Hold on sweethearts...

Who stands next to the Durge? A round of applause for Lae'zel in her believable performance as Sceleritas Fel



He cheated then to almost push Astarion out of the picture.

Oh, such a fun family story this is turning out to be! <3

Yes, Astarion is a very intelligent Vampire Lord, with excellent assassin skills, subduing wolves and bats, skilled in necromancy and summoning ghouls, a master of stealth, and it's not worth worrying about him so much anymore...

"- Okay, the 'gentle protective bonds' are there, elixir drunk, gear in order, spare potions, scrolls put in your bag...

- Ascended Vampire is on your side, you don't be afraid!

- Yes, my love, I'm not afraid, only... Did you remember to eat breakfast today?"

It's time for me to stop this...


Haha, wow, I didn't know you could fling live characters!

I have grown quite fond of the lines Origin-Astarion gets to hear at the dock. They have a nice mix of being caring without being too affectionate (with the exception of Minthy, who is brutal). Gale's "Now, without wishing to cause undue alarm, might I suggest we find some shade? I think the sun is reneging on that truth of yours." is my fav, because it's the only one that suggests the group should find some shelter together, the most seamless continuation of the preceding conversation about celebrating. It's also not overly sweet and keeps that friendly ribbing tone that most their banter has when Astarion is PC - and which admittedly might be one of my favourite things about the game. Good natured teasing and making fun with instead of poking fun at someone is such a rare type of comedy, that I value it when it comes up.

That Gortash... I always knew he was thirsting after my Durge... xD Mine would just roll her eyes and have a look of disgust on her face whenever Sceleritas tries to mention other partners for her. I'm sure his idea of a fitting partner would be something out of a nightmare too, lol.
Yes, I think Sceleritas would nag exactly like that for years, but nothing ever changes. :p Just never-ending Sceleritas-in-law nagging, while Astarion and Durge ignore it. He'll have to be very patient - maybe in a few centuries or so, they'll finally have a little heir. <3
Lmao noooo, not our little bat! I can imagine the glowering rage in that cute little face while stuck in the cage! And the vengeance that would bring once he's freed.^^; I think Durge and AA would double-team Sceleritas for daring to do that.

Lol! And secretly, Dark Urge is thoroughly enjoying every moment of this.

This will be the most labor-intensive and dedicated photobomb ever In Sceleritas' mind, he is only doing his royal duty, after all.

I love this. It sounds like Dark Urge really is living the very best life, and loving every minute of their bickering.^^
You are all so talented and creative with these stories!

LMAO. This is just perfect! Thank you so much for this <333
After a while, people will start to notice many pairs of underwear like that scattered all around. It will turn into a local legend.

Absolutely like magic. He's just too good at what he does; it even has the same effect on us as the player. I had that same thought at one point, like, when did this become so real for me? Lol. Just like my character, in the beginning I thought I was just having a little fun with him, because he seems so silly at times and he has some of the funniest lines and reactions. But it becomes much deeper than that. Your heart really gets invested. I have to agree that this speaks to the talent of Stephen Rooney as well. <3 And the fact that he's so versatile as a character; the one who will want to stand by your side no matter what path you decide to take.
You're right, if I don't choose him as the romance, I would feel like he's going to be lonely and it's just very sad that I'm taking away the love that he should have with my character. That's why it feels empty, because you know the great potential that's there and have already experienced it. It feels wrong to ignore it. But that's how I would feel.

Omg, this is such a sweet thought. And Sceleritas covering Ast in a blanket, hehe.
I think you're right. After all, they both have one very important thing in common: If they both love Dark Urge, then I think they are family. <3 And deep down, they respect each other for protecting the one person who is most precious to them both.

This is hilarious!! You literally brought their dynamic to life here!
Darling, you are too good!

This is too cute. I can see them fussing over each other exactly like that. <3

Sceleritas has heard that Astarion has a "hideous vermin" in his tent. He then volunteered to clean up there...

I imagine a charming little elf with soft curls and small fangs (a copy of Astarion), wearing a silk white shirt with a jabot and a fine, fashionable camisole that fits him like a young nobleman should. He sits at a mahogany desk, his pretty face holding an expression of extreme concentration, his eyebrows drawn together, his eyes squinted, and it is evident that he is trying hard. He holds a golden quill in his fingers and, in elegant calligraphy, writes the obscene words to the spells on the pages of his father's Necromancy of Thay, accompanied by appropriate illustrations.


Ha ha! I love the writing on Astarion's underwear. But now it looks like I'm going to have to get him a new one - the exact same one, so he won't immediately notice that it now says on his underwear that he's married, listing the most notable murders his wife has committed.


I joked with him at first (not in the game, but in my own words, I like to chat with my companions as I play), calling him Mr. Disapproval while Tav didn't know he was a vampire yet. His asking me out on a date was so sudden, it just took me by surprise. The first night with Astarion and that morning when he meets the dawn I will probably never forget, it's an amazing play experience. Right the next day he offered me to kiss a goblin's foot (it turned out the other way around, which amused us both, but the offer itself!), set me up for the Loviatar priest challenge, and when I approached him at camp wanting to talk about it, he said he missed me. The most original beginning of love imaginable. And the first, really genuine smile on his face when I opened his mind during the confession in the second act. And then he looks at you in a completely different way, he even opens his eyes, whereas before he was always squinting slightly. And his playful, gentle lines in Act 2 (the only thing I missed a bit in Act 3 - I wanted to hear about "I'm listening to you with all my pointy ears" one more time). I guess after Act 2, it's just that "My favoritest character is Astarion" turned into "I'm obsessed by Astarion", hehe. And when in Act 3 he thanks you so deeply and sincerely, calls you consort, and speaks very seriously about eternal love - it's like the final transition to the deepest level of the relationship, a true couple, a whole. And you can be any - you can play an evil character and you will have fun together with Astarion, or you can do evil deeds only where it concerns his well-being, the Ascended Lord does not at all prevent you from joyfully running through the streets of the city and solving all local problems, and occasionally even approves. He wants to take control of the brain, but if you do not do it - not a single reproach will not be, Astarion will be happy to get rid of the tadpole and, finally, absolute freedom. You can conquer the city to your will, or you can go traveling, have fun at balls and enjoy life. Astarion is very versatile, and that feeling of being together, it runs through the whole game. For me it's a game about two people, about our couple, our acquaintance and our adventures.


Oh yeah, he's clearly up to something...

Not an old master but quickly faked in Photoshop. ; ) I've to try to get the models in Blender. I have no idea what I'm doing, but that doesn't stop me.

And yes, if the sofa looks familiar, we went to Sharess' Caress just to have tea!

It looks like a family portrait. And Astarion has his trademark grin! <3

This is really extremely cute.

Think about what kind of child that would be, endowed with the power of Bhaal and Ascended Astarion, the world should shudder at the thought.

Yeah, if he's born with all those powers - he'll be the most dangerous little adorable on Faer�n. <3 Sceleritas will definitely want to play with him and participate as much as possible in his 'upbringing'. Astarion will be faced with a cutie with the same temperament as him, only still spoiled beyond belief by his mommy, the Lord's power is threatened.

What kind of gifts Grandpa Bhaal gives the little one. They also redefine family celebrations.

Now I've more time for answering Darling.



Yes, I bet Gortash has already made his own plans.

In my personal story that my character has, he also stole a small silvery-violet shimmering vial with the inscription "Drow". Since it was in the treasury, it had to be very special. The Dark Urge has always liked the Drow people and what better way to complete their plan would be to choose another form and life. Unfortunately, the transformation didn't work completely, so she has remnants of shimmering white scales on her skin (I've change my skintextur]. And then there was also the little accident ...

Gortash immediately started thinking about YOUR future together, not only as Best Buddies. This makes the conversation between my Dark Urge and Gortash very interesting for me.



Thank you I'm actually working on Eden's Sin Collection, her own Clothes. She says if Astarion looks this good in his gear, then she must look this good too.I can do all my own texture maps, but I've problems with all this "bring it to the game" Some of the guides are probably out of date, so I don't know where the error is at the moment and I have to test everything completely *sigh*. I hope I can manage it. Eden has already written down her wishlist for me... in blood.

Yes, Astarion Jr. would probably be best friends with Sceleritas, and Sceleritas would have to have an occasional game of hide and seek to lock himself in some coffin in the dungeon, and get a bit of a break from the noisy heir. Astarion-Lord now felt what a real family was, and perhaps even remembered something from his childhood, realizing the fact that the sugar little ears on the white little elf's head weren't made for him to use them to listen to daddy and mommy. Astarion and Dark Urge will have a lot of interesting and important things to do - to find out who let the ghouls loose on the guests during the reception, to play detective, looking for hidden and scattered all over the castle kompromat on the important people of the city (it's a very serious game that can't be delayed - the kompromat has been laboriously collected over the years), to come running to the cries of someone who opened the trophy chest, tried to juggle Orin's daggers, broke a fingernail and almost cut a finger. The fingernail regenerated in two minutes, but crying is too serious a matter to just stop without a decent ending to the performance. Well, and of course, the little guy always tries to blame everything on Sceleritas, who, after all, dreamed so much about an heir?


Eden's Sin Collection? Do you do mods?

This is so heartwarming cute And Astarion then teaches the even tinier bat how to fly. Blaming others for everything is definitely something he gets from Astarion. For example, So it's your fault.


I'm trying because for patch 7 Eden wants to look scandalously good. As I said, I'm still having problems getting things into the game and since some of the guides are out of date, I don't know exactly where my mistake is. Did I do something wrong when importing/exporting the 3D model or during the programming part? I have to check everything very carefully. I'm currently looking for a simpler model to look for possible sources of error. I'm currently digging through 8 folders of textures to find the right maps. ... I just saw there are more than 8

"A hideous vermin, you say? ..Where?"
(I think he's just hungry and wants it for himself.)

This is such a cute scene to imagine! At first glance it looks like a normal young noble child, but look a little more closely, and you can see he's anything but ordinary. It's funny, I imagine him looking a lot like Astarion too. Maybe with a few unique traits here and there added, depending on what a player's Tav/Durge looks like.

That's a genius idea. Astarion wonders what you're doing all day. You're always very busy... (secretly embroidering new pairs of underwear for him) :p

Yes, at some point while I was still in Act 1, I was going to buy some stickers that say "Astarion disapproves" on them, lol.
I agree with all of your points about him. I love that you can choose to take control of the brain, or reject it, and he's just as happy if you don't do it. He never mentions it again and he looks so excited and optimistic to go traveling the world with you. I love how I can make all the goody-2-shoes decisions and get the Epilogue ending, AND also have Vampire Lord Astarion there as my partner. Some of the companions at the party even ask about whether I will have kids with my partner. So it's not just him turning into an irredeemable villain. I think maybe he was a little drunk on power at first right after the ritual, but in my mind, I think he really just wants to be safe (and keep his Consort safe too), drink his fine wine, throw some parties, get into some political gossip, and live life in luxury. He's very excited about living again and feeling so ALIVE. And now he has an eternity with his beloved, and a lifetime together to overcome/heal/work through the pain that he experienced in the past.

Edit: This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from him, right after Astarion's siblings invade your camp. One of the things he says to you is, "I'm doing this for you too, you know. So that we can both be safe. Forever."

Ahh, was your Dark Urge a dragonborn first? That is an awesome backstory! Very unique too!
Yeah, the way that Gortash talks to Durge is interesting to say the least! You can ask the Emperor if he's telling the truth about wanting to rule together with you, and as it turns out, he's not lying about that.
Edit correction.. I believe it was with Detect Thoughts that I found that out. Not by asking the Emperor.

:0 I'm excited to see! I believe you will figure it out! It would be so nice to have everything be original and one-of-a-kind for my character.
I hope Eden will get to have her special dress for the ball, in case we get that wonderful new evil ending. *crosses fingers*

Oh my goodness... seeing the little Astarion-bat next to the even tinier child-bat!! <3 I think having a child would be deeply touching for Astarion, in a much sweeter way than he would ever expect.
I can just imagine how much Sceleritas will love and adore Dark Urge's heir. He had to wait a very long time for them after all. This child is going to be very spoiled and deeply loved. And how lucky that he gets to have a magical butler to grow up with.
Sceleritas: "I'm simply one hell of a butler-in-law"

Yes ... yummy yummy . Otherwise he would say "Clean your tent alone, white curls."


With me he would have Mommy's bright blue eyes.


When someone reads in his underwear that he is already married, the enemy is already far too close. ^^ But why would Astarion want to do that? He wasn't allowed to drink blood for 200 years and you let him drink while you have s*x, the poor man must completely lose his mind. ^^ For him, everything else is completely boring, and besides, he has the love of his life who he completely adores. I would trust him completely, he should decide for himself what he wants to wear. But if he wants, we can of course go shopping underwear.

Edit: It would be much funnier if Astarion himself embroidered it into his underwear "If you read this, I'll be dead or defenseless and I promise you my wife will hurt you very much, if I can't do it anymore."



Yes, in my story, die white Dragonborn Dark Urge is part of my Drow Dark Urge. I find it illogical to be able to be any race, so I like a touch of devilish magic better. So my Dark Urge also has done a transformation, but he stole it from Mephistopheles... let him keep his contract for himself. I'm sure there were more tiny vials with permanent transfiguration spells for other races.


Thank you Darling, I will do my best.


And when Daddy leaves the room after flying lessons, Mommy goes to the little one and says, "Always do what Daddy teaches you. If you can do all that, then Mommy will show you how to control this big boy." Then you transform into the Slayer and the little one squeals with joy and you gently stroke his cheek with one claw.

*Sceleritas stands hidden behind a curtain and is completely proud.* He secretly loves Astarion too, but that doesn't stop him from sending the little one to play pranks on his father.

As a fellow drow player I love this. Astarion just looks so good paired together with a drow character! Not only looks-wise but I really like how they both understand what it's like to live in the shadows, having to watch your back all the time and trusting no one. AA and drow consort are a truly formidable pair! I also love him with Minthara and their epilogue introduction is awesome - constantly scheming together and making everyone indebted to them.


Recently, I've run into this short showcasing a line I haven't heard yet, which is rogue exclusive. Astarion really adores villains:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2kQBYSC0Hpc

I love being a Drow and yes, Astarion looks great next to a Drow from my perspective too. They both know what it's like not to be able to standing in the sun and as you say, life in the shadows is cruel... and so are drow. At first I always had a bit of trouble connecting Lolth-sworn with my Dark Urge and Bhaal, but I understand Lolth more as my cultural background.

I always love it when I arrive in the Underdark and Astarion tries a pun, which we know he doesn't like. He shouldn't try either.

Not that I've ever tried to steal from children.

And again he cheated his way into the picture.

I love this idea so much.^^ It would still have very similar stitching to what was embroidered in his original underwear, with just a little bit extra, since he's no longer single. Or how about this one: "If you can read this, and you're not my wife, I almost feel sorry for what's about to happen to you."
And I completely agree - I can't see Astarion ever wanting to stray or betray his love! I feel like he would want only one intimate partner (if any), mainly due to what he went through in the past. He would have kind of like an obsessive type of love for his partner. I always got the impression that AA really only needs one person in his life, and that's what he likes. In fact, I don't think he ever wants to let her go again.
You're right, he must have went totally wild, combining the taste of your blood (which he goes crazy for) and the intimacy with the only person he's ever really loved / fell in love with.

Oh my goodness, this child is going to grow up to be absolutely terrifying. Astarion + Dark Urge are already a deadly combination, but their child...? I think they'll inherit the best and most powerful parts of both of them, plus they get to perfect those skills from a young age. And they'll become just as handsome/beautiful and charming... Which makes them all the more dangerous.
Awww, the proud and adoring Grandpa Sceleritas (and how much he loves them all) is going to bring a tear to my eye. :') Cutest little evil family ever. <3

Omg ROFL! Your ascended Astarion and your Urge looking so regal and dignified... and then Sceleritas just there like a damn jumpscare once you notice him. His face looks so freaking big behind Astarion's too!

Made me think of this insidious jumpscare:
I love the portraits you made! <33 I'm cracking up thinking about how they'll have to hang these up on the palace walls, even though he's photobombing in all of them... and Astarion's annoyed face, knowing he has to accept it...

If their children are as hungry for power as their parents, AA and the Dark Urge should be vigilant later. If the Dark Urge is , I could certainly imagine that one of the children would feel called upon to take over this power. Equipped with the powers of both, their children are likely to be perfect Predators, can transform into multiple forms, and can quickly regenerate wounds. Probably immortalized by their father. Bhaal will love the new generation of spawns.


"What is the name of your Daddy? ... YES, Ass ...tarion ... say aggain ... Ass...tarion ... You are such a clever sweet little Master. Tiny Sceleritas loves you so much. If you see your Daddy next time, tell him what you've learned." "Sceleritas looks devilishly happy.* "Next time I'll teach you the word "Gortash".


This is a role that Sceleritas would add to his resume.

Sceleritas will dust off the pictures every day and check that none have disappeared. He found some in the sewers under the palace. He immediately hung it back up in the right place.

What has he done? lol Did he bury Sceleritas somewhere again, only this time much deeper?



Looking at Lae'zel and I, we didn't seem to help very much.



Yes, as the text on the pictures suggests, I annoyed him again.

Yes, absolutely. I swear to watch over him and guard him like the apple of my eye (too bad you can't answer like that :)). Though to see how nicely he handles his daggers, hmmm... It would be great if you could contact Astarion mentally, through the tadpole (if you already know he's a vampire), and suggest that he dispose of Gandrel neatly and quickly, so that you could watch his assassin art and he wouldn't be nervous or tense knowing you were on his side.

An even tinier bat, the dosage of cuteness is off the charts! <3 When he gets tired of flying, he can land quietly on his mom's head and nestle in her hair. Astarion will say, "You are so beautiful! That new hairstyle is just the height of fashion!" The Dark Urge will look in the mirror with surprise and see a nest on her head with a little face sticking out of it, flapping its beady eyes, feel the rustling of little paws and hear a joyful squeak.


It will be very interesting to watch! Let me know when it will be ready and where to download!


You can see the neat little fangs when he laughs with his mouth open, or yawns like a kitten. In the evening, for example... Astarion sits on his throne, menacingly reprimanding one of his subordinates who has failed in a task. His voice echoes through the vaults of the hall, but is suddenly cut short when a tired little boy enters the hall. His shirt is no longer white, his camisole is somewhere... (maybe Sceleritas knows where it is?), in his left hand is a backpack in the shape of owlbear, which is dragging on the floor and some pebbles and strange artifacts are falling out of it (where did he find it?), he is covered with some dust and cobwebs. Astarion raises his eyebrows in surprise, trying to hold back his laughter and preparing a profoundly wise statement appropriate to the situation, while the heir, paying no attention to anyone present, waddles to the throne, climbs onto his father's lap, stretches and yawns loudly, embraces him, rests his head on his shoulder and instantly falls asleep. Astarion lets out a short: "Hm!", throws everyone out of the hall with a commanding gesture of his hand, takes out a handkerchief, carefully removes the cobwebs from his son's hair and ears, and carries him to his crib.


Yes, that's the way it is! After the ritual, he was a little drunk, not even just from the power, but from all these new feelings and sensations that came over him in a huge flood. Before he existed, not lived, in darkness, grayness and pain, only the tadpole gave him the opportunity to breathe life again and taste it. And now he is ALIVE again and feels everything, including things he never felt before. He hears the living creatures - bats and wolves, who want to serve him, he hears the beating of their hearts, it is delightful, but - it is also difficult... He needs to get used to it, to learn to understand and manage it, Astarion is very excited after the ritual, but who in his place would feel otherwise? The ritual didn't change him, the ritual expanded the range of his feelings and emotions, he is intoxicated by it, he needs time to realize this new cascade of feelings. "I feel alive, hahaha!" ALIVE is the key word. My DU, Tav, I'm not going to let anyone take that away from him again.

Yes, they have an eternity, and the beloved will give him all her love and tenderness, and all wounds will heal. Time heals, and fortunately we have plenty of that medicine.


Yeah, I want to get there now and finally get that scene. Astarion understands the price of safety, and he knows what this world is really like. He's said before that he wants to protect you. I was really touched by how he... gives a lot. Love, attention, protection. I tried to give everything to him before, worrying only about him, and then - he's so willing to take care of me on his own! Even my favorite warrior roleplay got a little boring, and I wanted to play it differently, to be softer and trust Astarion - let him lead the group and be the protector. <3 Astarion manages to awaken the femininity in his beloved.


Nah, nah, it's a joke for Astarion himself when he finally notices the inscription change. The question, of course, is how he will take such jealous jokes... Maybe he will repay it with something funny from his side. In the game there is no possibility to show even a little jealousy (Astarion, of course, does not give any reason, except that once he flirted with Sh. and called her a flower, but that was a long time ago), I sometimes want to be a little jealous, gently, so that it does not look like distrust, but rather like "Astarion in the center of attention". And to make him a little jealous too, just as a show of passion, in game he only reacts to absolutely horrible things like actual cheating, which I can't and don't want to do. He might ask what the hell Halsin wanted from me after I'd already sent Halsin away, or pull out his daggers right after Haarlep dared to tell me: "Take off your clothes" (in my headcanon, they pull out their weapons at the same time, and Astarion gives Haarlep the first and last brutal blow, and then they ask their companions to remove themselves, and then they love each other on the local luxury bed while Haarlep's corpse is lying on the floor somewhere, but they've already forgotten it exists).


Yeah, that sounds really cute and fun, Astarion-style!


Oh, how adorable! <3 Maybe the pranking of the father will also happen because the kid really wants to be like him, to repeat what he does (like fiddling with books, climbing on the throne and trying to command everyone), and the little prankster will make it look like a funny parody of Astarion.


One can imagine the moment when the powers of Bhaal and the Ascended Vampire awaken...

Astarion and Dark Urge left the kid with Sceleritas to celebrate their anniversary. The rooms in the Elfsong Tavern they rented for this are lined with flowers and candles. The same fireplace as it was back then... Its fire is reflected in Dark Urge's eyes as she stares at Astarion uninterrupted. Astarion, leaning over to his lover, kisses her hand. Gently. And even more tenderly, long, as if wanting to stop this moment, carrying it into eternity...

Several Harpers climb the sewers, intending to sneak into the castle, they know that the Lord and Lady have left it this night. Astarion Jr. sits on his throne, bored, adjusting his father's crown, which is clearly not yet his size and so keeps slipping down his nose. They argue with Sceleritas about what tastes better, blood or beetles, and about the fact that it's not fair that beetles are easy to put in a cup with blood, and to fill a beetle with blood you need a syringe, the beetle may burst, and even if everything works out, Sceleritas won't even notice the result, like last time. But the bugs in the glass of blood become very even noticeable when they suddenly fall into the mouth. Sceleritas suddenly puts her finger to her mouth, "Shh, shh, shh!" Mental Link. Astarion Jr. chuckles in a whisper, rubbing his fingers together ominously. As long as Sceleritas has his hand on the pulse, Mom and Dad can be left undisturbed.

...In this episode of the black horror comedy series "Castle Alone" the powers of the kid will show themselves, and the leader of the harpers near the finale is sure to regret that he himself did not listen to his mommy, and not become a donut seller at the market, like his father and grandfather before him...


Adorable! <3


He peeks out so cute from behind his back.

The soiled Astarion is so cute! <3

I bow... I have to think about that now

*Carefully remove the little bat from my hair and gently place it in his bed.*

Being Lolth-sworn can just be a starting point. There are many interesting rp possibilities when it comes to the drow.


I really liked that scene too.

Bat turns back into a boy, smiles all his little fangs, and demands a cuddle and a goodnight kiss.

*You hug and kiss your child lovingly and sit next to him for a long time and watch him. You go into your bedroom and get a very old wooden box from a secret hiding place. It's covered in dust, you haven't opened it in a very long time. When you open it, there are 2 tiny daggers inside and only you and Sceleritas know what you did with them. You can still smell the old blood on those blades. You've always been the Dark Urge... right?

You close the box and push it back into its hiding place and with it a part of yourself that will remain hidden forever.*

Ass-tarion! xD What a wonderfully devious little grandpa he is.
Very interesting, I bet hearing about Gortash would make Astarion a bit jealous (even if he tries to hide it). And he will be very confused about why his child would be mentioning his name, lol. But I'm sure he'll have his suspicions...

I can totally see this happening. It's now my headcanon. xD
Thank you darling, your posts really brighten my day.

Ahaha, this is too good. Astarion might be coming back from the rose garden here, or from the sewers. Maybe even from the hag swamp... I'm thinking he didn't realize his face was so dirty.
Even though the two of them prank each other like this, I'm imagining that Astarion would secretly get worried if Sceleritas doesn't return after a few days.
I love how AA and your Urge are even bickering a little bit like a married couple here. :p

Oh my heart...!!! I can't take it, this is just so beautiful. :')
The way you described Astarion's attitude shift from harsh and strict master, to indulgent and bemused daddy... perfect. <3
And the lil baby bat in Dark Urge's hair! <3 So cuuute!
I can see Astarion kissing the little bat's head, giving him a gentle *boop* on the nose, then leaning down to gently kiss Dark Urge's forehead.

Thank you Marielle, you have actually helped me understand that scene (right after the ritual) in a deeper way than before. A little light bulb just went off above my head.
I'm remembering what Raphael said about the ritual. It makes a lot of sense that Astarion would feel drunk not just from the overflowing power, but from all of those intense "new" emotions suddenly flooding him. Emotions, desires, and appetites that he hasn't had for 200 years! In all those years, he's gotten numb from never-ending hunger and having lost so much. The way he said "And I feel alive," and the way he laughed... I recorded this scene and had to watch it a few times over because it gave me chills. It's one of my favorite moments that sticks out in my mind. I think this was the first time I ever heard him laugh quite like that in the game � it felt to me like he was finally feeling GENUINELY happy, confident, and triumphant. Maybe also feeling an intensified/renewed hot-blooded appetite for his lover, too (I imagine!).


Absolutely, I agree. <3 It's definitely worth it to get that scene. It made me do an audible "Awwww.." And it solidified my belief that he urgently wants to protect you from harm always. I also didn't get to see that scene during my first playthrough! I hate how easy it can be to miss important things.
It's tragic to me how so many people want to paint him as this horrible partner who doesn't care for you anymore, and twisting him into an unfeeling villain who lost all of his humanity and his soul. People love to quote the things he says after you break up with him as proof but I'm not convinced. From all that I've seen and experienced from him, that assumption couldn't be further from the truth. You're the one person who he wants by his side forever and the one person other than himself who he wants to protect. You are literally in each other's arms until the stars collapse. :') I'll never believe that he stops caring. All I can see is a very deep love that goes into eternity.

The tiny daggers! I always wondered if Dark Urge would ever open up to anyone about this part of their childhood...
It feels to me like Dark Urge is closing that chapter of their life now while starting a new one now with their child. <3
My Durge wears the tips of her old daggers in her hair as fashion accessories.^^'

When you ask what your daddy's name is and your child answers "Gortash"... I think that's the moment when Astarion's face immediately twists into a vicious grimace and he just says "Darling, take the child and go away , what is about to happen should not be seen by any of you".

If he says something like that in a family like yours, where murder, blood and even violence is somewhat commonplace, then he's at a point where he's dropping any facade of dignity and doesn't want us to see him like that.

This should be the moment when Sceleritas also knows that he has overdone it. ^^


Here's an extra .


I like to choose answers that are not the ones Astarion would expects. I love it when he gets upset for 2 seconds and then everything goes back to normal.

I think the Dark Urge is very complex in his personality. He is a private person somewhere, with his own thoughts and these 2 daggers are basically the end of a possible life without the Urge. The Dark Urge must be very educated and smart after we know what he did. He also has a certain emotional intelligence, considering the almost warm loving words he has for Orin.I then see the face of my Dark Urge, , has an almost painful expression on her face and briefly closes her eyes. I do think that the Dark Urge has few moments in which he thinks about his actions and the consequences.

If you then look at your happy child and you yourself was hardly older at the time, it might make the Dark Urge sad.

A beautiful and slightly sad shot.


What a beautiful happy moment! <3 The next day...

"50 shades of gray" is a story about how a little white vampire had a new snow-white suit made to order (Figaro decorated it with pearls), and the little vampire decided that now it was the right time to explore the mysteries of the castle dungeon and find in its dusty silent depths unknown treasures - a one-eyed skull and a dried mummy of a huge beetle (a gift for Sceleritas).


Yeah, I got chills from that scene too! It was the first time he had ever laughed like that before! Astarion only really laughs so genuinely and triumphantly after the ritual. I've watched UA videos and not once have I seen him laugh. What's also interesting is that after the Ascension, he always keeps his posture natural, and stops moving his whole body like he used to. The appetite for the lover should also appear, for now all the senses are awakened in him. At night after the ritual one can see that he really wants it, even when he comes from behind and bites, there is a certain thirst and desire in this bite.


I was lucky enough to find a fairly close old save where we hadn't gotten to Cazador yet, so I didn't have to wait until I got there again. I was only one rest short, it turns out. It's a shame that the scene with the nasty half-naked illithid ( molestation by the Emperor) always comes first. I've had normal interactions with the Emperor, and have no personal dislike for him, but purely aesthetically that scene is just gross. Okay, head with tentacles, that's fine, but at least let him walk around decently dressed, ugh, I have to make an effort to say no to him without insulting him. It would be much better if your beloved's plot scenes were given maximum priority.

Interesting that Astarion didn't say that line to me, about "no one cared about me like you". I replayed it twice - asking what would have happened if the spawns had died, and saying that I hope Cazador can't control him (understandable, but just wanted to hear the answer). Each time, Astarion says at the end, "And thank you. No matter what happens, it's only because of you that I can stand up to him". That line really warms me up too, and it's great, but where does the line about caring hide? I helped him fool the spawns both times before this. Before that I chose the line, "Get the hell out of here!". I know that if you read Astarion a moral, he'll tell a bitter story about the boy he saved and the year of hunger.


These many people are so eager to paint him as a "terrible partner" that they explicitly insist on choosing the "right" lines for their story. Just look closely at those lines. Tav comes off in them as someone whose lack of intelligence is compensated for except by a heightened level of bitchiness. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, the roleplay can be whatever the player likes, as long as it's an option in the game. But it's hard to call Astarion's reaction to it horrible. It's adequate to the situation (except he goes to screaming because he's in pain). How many twists in the head is Tav, who agreed to a ritual that binds forever, and... not even a year later starts throwing tantrums and wanting to break up? The bride ritual can't be broken, a vampire can kill his bride, though it will hurt him badly, but not break it.

Not infrequently they also cite the example of a love confession squeezed out of the unhappy Astarion in an "incorrect form": "I love you, that's what you want to hear." To get to it, you have to talk like a heroine from a bad anecdote to Astarion. If I wanted to eat male brains, I would agree to become an illithid, for surely an illithid enjoys the process much more. And if I want to talk about love, I can always honestly say, "I love you" first, I'm disgusted with squeezing words of gratitude or recognition out of anyone. A begged or squeezed word has no value, and it will always sound "different" than the words a person says to you on their own willingly. But you remember Astarion's thanks before the kiss of the hand, and the next morning. And you don't have to squeeze anything out of him for that.

If you watch a slice of video in the style of: "Bad Astarion - unhealthy relationship" and just put yourself in Astarion's shoes, imagine it all being addressed to you, especially: "You're like Cazador" (knowing that Cazador tormented him for two hundred years and Astarion hated that creature more than anything else in the world), then you'll be able to appreciate this situation in all its colors. For me, there is something creepy and extremely vile in the way it is proposed to leave a loved one in darkness, with eternal hunger, with no colors of life, with dulled feelings, because he does not confess his love in the "proper" way. But this is just my opinion, I am not an expert or a psychologist, for me a "healthy relationship" is a relationship without pain and tragedy, and that's it. The only thing I want to do after that is to go into my game and kiss Astarion, and build my own healthy relationship with him where he never gets hurt again. And you said it very well, that it's a very deep love going into eternity. It's too deep a love to be considered "the norm". "The norm" is something average, ordinary, not outstanding. Astarion won't stop caring about that. He gets sad when you go off to talk to the others at the party in the epilogue, promises to keep an eye on you, and makes that face:
And about "soul loss," if you're interested, we've discussed that here. Starting with illeaillas-san's post #943485.


Oh, hehe, I myself would lose my temper if my child said his father's name was Gortash. An extreme form of surprise, so extreme that it cannot be expressed in any other way than by a word totally unacceptable in high society? If the child learns this word as a result, it will be a complete failure...

P.S. I was going to reply in the "Funniest thing you've found" thread, but when I wrote a reply I saw that we were already being banished from there, so I'm moving this post here (it's mostly about Astarion, after all).


That's a very interesting idea! I've never taken Scratch into combat, I was always afraid for him, but with the invisibility potion it's a different tactic... I also like the simple but perfectly working combination of Tav warrior - defense tank and Astarion - assassin. Astarion is very comfortable throwing stealthy strikes at Tav's engaged opponents. The main trick is the "gentle protective bonds" that Tav puts on Astarion, and also pump his ability to wear medium armor. Armour of Agility (Sold by Gloomy Fentonson at Stormshore Armoury in Act III) allows him to add Dexterity Modifier to his Armour Class + Balduran Helmet + Protective Cloak. AC 26 - Astarion - assassin tank + resistance to all types of damage + half of the damage goes to Tav, Astarion has not died in combat once in the entire 3rd chapter. My personal funny moment - after the fight with Ansur: Tav and Will are wishing for resurrection, Astarion is standing alone, staggering, covered in blood and bruises, stunned, Lae'zel is lying unconscious in the background. And our dearest Emperor immediately appears and begins to tell his story in a sedate way, with expression... Looking at Astarion's face in this scene, I imagined what lines he would say to him now, if he could...


Yeah, you have to ally yourself with him to do that. I wonder if it's somehow possible to combine saving Will's father and an alliance with Gortash, or are they basically mutually exclusive? Haha, I really liked his reaction! He did the right thing, because these heroes are used to the fact that no one will fight back, well done!


Astarion is very practical about flowers! The Lae'zel line is interesting too, I've had other companions with Astarion and this line, but I hadn't heard Lae'zel's answer before!

You have to be silent when Astarion deceives his brother and sister, and then choose "I can't believe you deceived them" and "you have no compassion for those who suffer as you do?" Then Astarion will say that no one has ever cared for him.

My sweet, I'll answer in more detail later. In the meantime I'll leave the video of shame there. I still have to laugh about that mistake. Astarion prepares the battle so well... We could have thrown the arrows by hand and shouted "Phew Phew" lol
But ok, we killed them and it could have been a lot worse.


Edit: There are some very good builds for Astarion. As AA he has an additional +1d10 necrotic Dmg with each attack, which makes him very powerful. Personally, I really like him as a gloomstalker. I personally enjoy playing the bard and I really like the bardadin (as Dark Urge "Hello Oathbreaker my friend" *wave* ). The protector build would go well with Astarion ,for example, if you play with two people in melee. As long as I have a little less AC than Astarion, they would basically attack me and as soon as they attack me, it triggers a reaction from Astarion. I could just as easily imagine him in an Assassin Rogue/Shadow Monk build, where he would be like my deadly lover who walks in my shadow. *meow*

Oh my~ I love this. And I can't blame Astarion for reacting like that. I think Gortash's name would be banned from the household from that point on.

Yes, I think he actually adores it deep down. He likes to be surprised and teased, as he does the same thing too. I think that a little naughty streak would be something he finds delightful and it matches his mischievous playfulness. You're someone he views as very special and he for sure doesn't think you're boring or ordinary like any normie on Faerun.

You make a beautiful point here, thank you. I think Dark Urge was thoughtful, loyal, and a genius in their own way. Probably why Durge and Gortash admired each other and had that respect for each other. Even though I was playing my own character however I wanted to, the game did a nice job of giving clues and painting a bit of a picture of who Dark Urge really was before – and not just their bloodthirsty nature.

Ooh... Now this is a story I want to hear.


Yeah, that scene is unpleasant. The way he's even leaning back suggestively while scantily dressed, lol. When he stands up, I swear he purposely did it in a way where his clothes move so you can see underneath his cloth.
I like being rude to him during this scene, because when you're harsh to him, it makes him completely drop his mask, and shows you what he really thinks about you and why he's acting that way. It also shows you what he did to I completely missed all of those details during my first playthrough all because I was being too polite to him.

It comes from the first text response you can give right after the battle with them, where you can say to him, "I can't believe how you lied to them..." and then choose the "Do you have sympathy for..."
I believe it comes up as a response if you either choose deception or persuasion dialogue responses when they first appeared.
Here is a clip I put together of his responses from my gameplay recording:
I love how he looks when he says "So we'll both be safe, forever. For good." His face looks so determined and strong-willed, and I can see he's very serious about it.

A bit off topic, but in regards to Minthara's little comment there – Does anyone know why or how the vampire spawn were able to enter the camp without an invitation?? I'm not sure if it was ever explained. Unless it's got something to do with Cazador trickery.
Also... what are these "remains" that Minthara speaks of? They all just poofed away... lol.

I agree. It's fine for those who enjoy roleplaying it that way, but that doesn't prove that AA doesn't love your Tav/Durge. Those are just opinions. I guess people can twist context clues to suit their needs. But you can easily do a whole playthrough without ever having him yell at you nor showing any displeasure towards you. You make a wonderful point: Of course if you say hurtful things to him, he's going to be angry. Especially when you consider that he does love you, and if you break his heart, he will be upset and will lash out (and possibly tries to convince himself of what he's saying, too). I can just imagine how disappointed he would be if you treated him that way.
I absolutely love how they added the vampire bride lore into it. They made it subtle enough, but if you follow the hints, it makes it clear what he did.

Oh, AA at the epilogue party is my fav. <3 Such great (and even some funny) pieces of dialogue. I even liked the 'bad' response because it wasn't really bad. It just showed me how he doesn't want to lose you and how he tries to spoil you and give you the world.
Hehe, the way he says he's always watching. It made me laugh when I first heard it because I wasn't expecting it, but damn I loved that. It can be interpreted in a couple of different ways, but I like the idea that my character always has Astarion there to watch over you, making sure you don't wander off and hurt yourself (the scene where you recklessly stick your hand into the wall at Moonrise Towers comes to mind, lol), and making sure no one harms you. The writing here was done well and I thought it was kind of tongue-in-cheek.
I agree with you! AA doesn't see your partnership as ordinary. He wants something that surpasses ordinary. It makes me think of Spawn's only response when you ask him what he thinks of your relationship ("Oh, nothing special..."). I know it's not meant to be taken that seriously, because he follows it up with something sweet, but I can't help but think there's something underneath his words.

Lol, I saw that too..

I am looking forward to testing all of this out, maybe in the next playthrough.^^ Yes, I really like how it gave Gortash a bit more bite to his personality, lol.

Love your videos!! <3 What a delicious thought... I def want to have Astarion as monk next time.

Sorry for all this text - I wanted to make sure I didn't forget to respond to anything.

Everything's fine darling. Hope you're well. I appreciate it when people, inspired by the thoughts of others, let their thoughts run free and find themselves there in an extended story. A lot of things come together to create an overall picture.


You can be sure that the name Gortash will never be mentioned in this household again. We better not know what Astarion did to Sceleritas for this prank. Certainly Sceleritas will have enjoyed these deaths, but they have also given him respect for Astarion. He will now accept him also as master, but that doesn't stop him from continuing to play pranks... his brain is already working again.


I also think he appreciates that. When you give him answers that you think will upset him, he often smiles. As long as it isn't malicious or goes against his interests, he takes a lot of things with humor.


Me too .


If I remember correctly, with 6 levels in Shadow Monk you get the shadowstep and can then jump from shadow to shadow. Then 3 or 4 levels in Rogue Assassin and for the rest I would see whether, for example, in Fighter, Druid or whether 6 in Rogue brings an advantage. Played with 2 short swords and later for example Orin's dagger and/or dagger from Cazador ... Yes, that sound great... lol. I could easily imagine it together with a Dark Urge Warlock with Devilssight who fights with Darkness and Astarion sneaks into the surrounding shadows or waits for the opponents in your darkness. So as a very dark shadow couple only played as a duo.

After playing BG3 with Ascended Astarion I got so much into the RP, I actually made him my main character in Elden Ring. Funny how much influence a character can have on a gamer. I just really identify with him in addition to liking his personality. He has all the death and blood magic ofcourse in addition to deadly bloodletting daggers, and a bouquet of bloody roses (it's a funny bleed weapon).
I think BG3 might have opened the Pandora box of RP for me. I was midly into it before, now I want to RP the Vampire Lord everywhere. While waiting for Patch 7. All the anticipation for that one.

Thanks! For some reason I thought this option sounded like an accusation, I didn't choose it and was puzzled by the fact that there are no caring lines, I thought that since Astarion talks about caring, I should say something caring to him beforehand, and the only show of caring in this scene is helping to trick the spawns (if you can call that caring :)). And this is an extra line that gives more as a result. In the next playthrough, I'll be saving at the beginning of dialogs with Astarion to see more. I've often had moments in the game where it's unclear whether it's an extra cue that will expand the dialog, or a "cue choice" that leads to one finalizing or another.


Cool, honor mode to go through with two, good tactics using bombs and retreats, looks like it could really be in some fantasy story or DnD!


Curious, will have to try different variations with him!


Oh, thank you! Now I won't be too polite!


In my walkthrough, Astarion didn't yell at me once at all. We had a great relationship. In general, it's even interestingly shown - Astarion behaves like a living person, he reacts to attitudes towards him, and behaves differently with different people. A player can choose a feud story, and see love crumble, break Astarion's heart, and yes, Astarion will treat differently to THEIR Tav/DU, just don't confuse that with Astarion's attitude towards the Tav/DU of those players who love Astarion, and choose a love story. Two different stories are possible with AA, depending on the player's attitude and roleplay. The feud story is generally well written if you look at it objectively, although I don't like this story at all for personal reasons, I can't and don't want to roleplay a character so opposite to myself in personality and character, and I would never do that to Astarion. And it's a pity that this story is given more attention, while there are not many options for loving roleplay, very few opportunities in the story to show Astarion my love, I think it would be much better to keep some kind of balance between positive and negative, in terms of the number of lines and options for different options of roleplay.


Yes, yes, now you'll be able to make cute sad eyes in Astarion's direction, "Love, why didn't you watch me?" after you stick your hand where you shouldn't have! And I also love the game when my character herself tries to follow Astarion's every move, because I wonder how someone who's always watching you will react to you watching him... At the party, I'm always spying on him.


Yes, he then says nice things like you're the only person he really care for, but he also coughs so embarrassed, like he's embarrassed of himself or his own words. He doesn't have the strength or ability to care properly (unlike Ascended). The relationship with UA is some kind of friendship, not love. He's not himself, in chapter 2 before Cazador the relationship was better, Astarion was more playful. I can't play with UA on an emotional level - I feel that he feels bad, he's depressed, he wears a mask of "proper behavior", I feel pained about him and there's nothing I can do about it.

And with Astarion after Ascension, it's something "more than just love". It really transcends the ordinary. Maybe that's also why it's so hard to break away from Astarion, and start playing some other game.


Dust was everywhere... Dust and silence until it was broken by little Ast's loud sneeze. "Wow, I haven't climbed in here yet!" - The heir proudly stepped over the threshold of a secret door, leading, it seems, either to a small library or to a vault. The young elf's keen mind, as sharp as his ears, found a way to solve the puzzle that opened the secret door (which his keen eye had discovered before, of course) - he held Skeleritas firmly by the shoulders, facing the puzzle, whispering demandingly in Skeleritas' ear: "And we're not going anywhere from here until you open this ... Or I'm going to climb into that old trap we bypassed, and I'm going to scream and call for Mommy, and if the trap doesn't work, I'm going to climb into one of those cages we saw on the way in, break the lock like I'm stuck and can't get out - and I'm going to scream and cry even harder, and when Mommy and Daddy come, I'm going to be scared and pale and shivering, and say you're the one who locked me in here... You know how I can make eyes... Think, Skeleritas, think, every problem always has a logical solution, that's what mom says!" And when the puzzle was conquered - their reward was a small dusty room with a couple of chests and a few racks of books. "Oh, why does he have one eye? Poor dead jerk..." - The kid twirled a one-eyed skull lying on one of the shelves. The shelf quacked and pulled aside, revealing a large two-handed axe. "How am I going to get this? Well how-uh..." Scleritas grinned wryly. "Hmmm, what's that scratched on his forehead here?" - Astarion Jr. rubbed his skull and...

- Go talk to me. I'll do it. Just two. - an ominous ghost, like a cloud of gray mist, crawled out of the skull's eye socket and stared at the boy.

The Little Lord opened his mouth, but Skeleritas interrupted him.

- He's a trickster. A bound spirit, can fulfill two desires and gain freedom. But he'll do anything to make you suffer. Think what you ask, little one, or you may not have to cry and make eyes at your grandfather, asking to be delivered from what you wish for...

- Don't listen to him..." the spirit whispered, "I'll do what I can. Two wishes... Give me my freedom!

The heir thought intensely for a while, frowning and touching his fangs with his tongue (he does that a lot when he's concentrating).

- Take this axe and drive it into the rock so that no one can ever pull it out!

Skeleritas' face showed a look of keen interest as he watched with all eyes to see what would happen next... The spirit granted the wish.

- Done. Next...

- Now PULL IT OUT!

P.S. I will probably be away for a while, if anything, I'll reply later.

I can understand you very well. I would like the story to continue. It then inspires me to further invent the story or episodes from it and yes, I tend to overdo it. Then one thought jumps to the next and I'm already mentally in the next episode (sorry moderators :)).

I would like to be able to take my companions with me to other games..."Ok, we have a new adventure here". "Ugh... doesn't look very inviting here, darling. I don't want to complain, but a little more decoration would have done this place some good."


Like I said, Honor Mode is also forgiving of almost any mistake, even with two people and a dog and with a tactic that had to be improvised. You can also play everything completely alone. I really like playing in a duo with Astarion.

Is it fantasy or DnD, whatever, I have fun that they let me do almost anything.



Hope you are well.

Nice! I need to look into this more because Shadow Monk sounds intriguing for Astarion. So far I've only had him with the hand crossbows and daggers, so watching him fight hand to hand combat style would be a lot of fun for me.^^ And it would be very fitting for AA. Now I need to think way too long about what my Durge should be... She was a cleric last time and I had to do mental gymnastics to explain to myself how that was possible. (In my head, it was all a part of her Father's plan to make her seem as inconspicuous and harmless as possible at first glance. Then no one would suspect a thing...)

Astarion and Sceleritas are such a good team together, even if they won't admit it. Lol I think some of the books that Astarion is always reading now have something to do with most creative torture methods and most agonizing ways of killing people.

That rose bouquet weapon looks like fun. I love that you can create your character to look like anyone, even Astarion. I'm imagining him running around with those weapons.^^ That was a creative way to link the two games together!
Agreed, I love some of the BG3 characters so much that I want the story to keep going, even in other universes. I need to find other games where I can plant him and my character into them. Lol @Sini! For sure, I can imagine Astarion with that whiny face as he says that. Or maybe his dignified (but patiently disapproving) Lord Astarion face that I love:

That's true, it seems a little bit like we're chastising him for his actions or being judgmental when we choose that dialogue. It's so hard to tell sometimes when more dialogue options open up, and sometimes it goes in an unexpected direction.

I like that you're spying on him while he's spying on you, lol. Why does the game assume I wouldn't also be keeping an eye on my love?
It turns into a challenge: Are you sure, you're really always watching? :p
Yes, I imagine my character would probably do something risky to get his attention.

I also got that impression that it might be more of a friendship type of connection with spawn Astarion, and more of a carnal passion with Ascendant. It also makes sense to me because although he (as the un-ascended version) begins to work through his trauma after dealing with Cazador, physically he is still the same. Compared to the Ascendant, who gains back the appetites he'd lost. It's melancholy for me too, to think that Spawn-version has to keep his hunger forever and has to give up on his dream. It does seem to me like he's repressing some feelings of regret and inner sadness but hides it.

I love the precocious personality you gave him! I think he would be exactly like that with Sceleritas, because he knows how grandpa dotes on him and adores him. And he knows what his parents do to Sceleritas if he displeases them. His habit of touching his tongue with his fangs and frowning... so sweet! You're bringing the little Ast Jr. to life!

I hope that all is well and that we will see you soon @Marielle! <33

Yes, that would be something that I can imagine very well for him. With Shadow Monk he can jump from one shadow to the next like a vampire and with Rogue he has sneak attack to be a silent killer. I would prefer Assassin Rogue. That would fit Astarion very well. The Dark Urge's cloak would be a good choice for him if necessary. Like I said, for myself I would probably choose a Warlock who works with darkness. Conjure the area, with Devilssight you can stand in the area and attack from it, you are not visible to opponents and Astarion can kill them all silently from the shadows.

They're certainly not the strongest builds, but they're certainly extremely stylish together. With a full group, I would choose builds that are equally "sneaky".


I think that Sceleritas is now a little more cautious. Even though he told the Dark Urge about the wonderful ways in which Astarion killed him and admired his creativity in choosing the objects that served him as weapons. He wouldn't have believed Astarion could kill so wonderfully and make every pain last as long as possible. Astarion himself is silent about that night.


Yes, this is one of his possible expressions. "Just be careful darling, I tried so hard to do your nails and mine. Do we always have to end up somewhere where it's so dirty and uncivilized? Can't we just land somewhere nice? I don't expect a welcoming committee with drinks at all, although we would undoubtedly be entitled to something like that. I would assume it's your fault, because with you, death lurks around every corner anyway."



What a clever little evil guy he is.

The whole family is proud of him. Sceleritas often tells him about Orin when he puts him to bed and describes to him exactly how his mom killed Orin and how he didn't like Orin at all.

Haha, it is fun to expand the story. And interesting characters like Astarion is just so fun to try and incooperate into other games. He is a good starting point for any creation and it sets a clear limitation on things to use so it's more of a challenge, which I like a lot to do in games. Especially Soulsborne games.

I did see you play a lot of honor mode, have you completed it? I have only done tactictian myself.


The bouquet is so much fun to stab with, lol, it looks so funny. "Here take my damn flowers, why don't you!" Astarion is a charmer so I think it fits him perfectly, hehe. Only thing I wish was that the Elden Ring character creation was better, he does not look as good as he does in BG3, he does have abs for days though.

Astarion offers so many opportunities to tell stories because his personality is often so unique that you immediately recognize that he is being referred to. And it's fun to think about his world of thoughts. How would he react now, what would he say.

I completed Honor Mode twice solo and once in multiplayer. But I always play the entire story, don't leave anything out and get myself into bad situations with bad ideas . I lost Honor Mode 3 or 4 times, once against Myrkul, once against Death Shepherds, once against Bernard. I've no problem with losing a Honor Mode, I start a new game and I will come back to do it better. Or I startet a new Game because Scratch die or my Owlbearcup runs away. That spoils my fun if I don't have the two of them in camp.

I love how relaxed you are about Honor mode. I will try to be the same and try it next time. The shepards are really horrible. First time I did them, after many deaths and reloads I said f*ck it and initiated Gales bomb (not knowing it would result in a game over, heh), well it killed them and my entire party..

I love the way you think, darling. Dead is dead and if I have to die for it myself and everything within a radius of at least 1 mile. For me it's so much fun, but I never think about being careful, then I have to solve the problem somehow creatively. I hope you have also as much fun.

That's probably what Astarion always thinks, when he is on adventures with me.

That's too funny! Such a classy, deadly gentleman. Much too stylish to kill you with any ordinary weapon. His face is probably hard to duplicate, but at least the abs sound right. :p

I think Assassin Rogue and Dark Warlock sounds like a very AA + Durge ish combo. I love it, Devil's Sight would work so well here. The two of you will look cool together while the enemies just start dropping like flies in the darkness. >:) "And together, we are unstoppable."

So far I've always had Astarion use the Invisibility cloak permanently, but it would be nice to finally play as a stealthy character and let her use it for once. No more letting him steal it off my Durge! Well, maybe...
Can't wait to see him jumping through the shadows and pulling some martial arts moves for a change. Never tried the monk class at all before, so it will be nice to try something new. I could let him be more center stage in battle this way while I pick enemies off from the sidelines. I might be setting my sights on a stealth Archer build for next time. Though I'm sure if it's just him and my Urge in battle, I'll have to get used to dying a lot... lol.

He's so worried about your nails again But I think he's glad to get a vacation from the butler.
I love how he still follows you everywhere and stands by you, even though he's also blaming you and complaining the whole time.^^ True love.

^Their relationship in a nutshell, lol! (A.k.a., the REAL reason he wants to sequester you in a deep chamber of his palace.) He really worries for you and I love him for that.
Did you stick your hand in again a second time btw? Something interesting happens + more Astarion <3

Well, then he should take his fingers out of your clothing box and look for something himself. I always have him look in Arron's and Damon's pockets first.


He made my nails his job. Sceleritas is no longer allowed to touch them. He's allowed to cut the Slayer's claws, but beware he has a nail file. The last time he tryed, he had to pull the nail file out of his hand and table top.
He's always complaining about something. I saw he secretly sends Sceleritas postcards. What would he like to write to him?


He shouldn't believe too strongly that I would be safe from myself there. ^^ I see him explaining to me why it's safer this way and I accidentally set the tapestry on fire and the fire just spread to the mattress. *I cast ignite*. I think he always forgets that my brain had a little accident, but Sceleritas still thinks I'm very smart. lol

Of course I put my hand in there again straight away. If it's a trap, then I'll ignore it

The poor guy may have been preparing to do a deluxe manicure for the Slayer, like he's used to doing for Durge.

One of Astarion's postcards to Sceleritas:

My dear Butler-in-law,

I trust that you are taking care of everything at the palace while we are away. By now, I expect you've found a way to free yourself from the sack on the rooftop where I last left you. I hope that has taught you not to leave your bug-crumbs on my pillow.
You know, I am feeling very emotional at the thought of not having you near... A great feeling of joy and relief, you understand.
Though I'm sure you have been missing us terribly, I can't say I've had the chance to miss you. There are all manner of creatures here with dirty odious faces that remind me of you. Although I must say, it is making me feel quite a bit more at home.

(Postcard has a picture of a decrepit graveyard with the words "Wish you were here")

Imagine Astarion's surprise when the butler shows up right behind him shortly after. "You called for me, milord?"


He is the best. He's the only person showing any concern for my character when I do that and indicating that he would have gotten involved to help her. The exasperated "Not again" is so funny because it shows Astarion's patience for all of our unwise decisions. He knows exactly what he's getting into when he's with you and he knows you're probably always going to be that way. And still, he couldn't be happier to be with you anyway. (Also love the "Let's keep our hands to ourselves now, hm?" And he gives you a genuine smile, like he thinks what you did was cute.)
In Sceleritas' eyes you'll always be perfect. Lol, Astarion will try his best, but I don't think anything will really keep Durge safe from herself. That's why he needs to always watch you.^^; And that's why I think they're a perfect match.

Lol Darling, I love that. [Edit: It's been a few hours now and I'm still laughing at the idea. Thank you. ]

It's better to put Sceleritas in a sack in the attic than he secretly hide in your luggage.

While he reads the postcard, he is in the process of reducing Astarion's clothing by two sizes. "If you think it's a good idea to let tiny Sceleritas stay home alone, I'll convince you otherwise. You are so wrong about this. What did you say Master, you would like garlic in your pillow, lots of it? Your desire is my pleasure."



I think they have to look out for each other. I love it when he drinks me dry and then I can constantly accuse him of killing me. Of course it just happened to me by accident that the monastery collapsed on top of him "But there is no evidence of that! There are evidence? It was an accident!"

Lol, I could see him trying to smuggle himself in their luggage. But he forgets he's not as small and light as he thinks he is.
You and I are thinking alike - I also imagined him rummaging through Astarion's closet.

Bonus postcard message from Astarion to Sceleritas:
Oh, and do be sure to stay out of my wardrobes this time, you loathsome little pest. If I detect even a hint of a sulfurous odor on them when I return, I will personally turn you into a scarf and keep you there in my permanent collection.


I'm one of the few who hasn't seen that scene yet. His reaction is priceless. Also, Eden's innocent-looking face the whole time has me rofl. And then she says she still wants to talk to him about something? But then just walks away. That really must have annoyed him... Lol!

There is a saying in German, that should go something like “Two stupid people, one thought” in English.

Well, the postcard must have been lost...what a shame. *Sceleritas unravels a few seams* "Next I'll manipulate the bathroom scales. The stupid master should think that he's gained weight, the blood there is probably particularly rich."


Yes, she has more questions for him. It's from one of my older playthoughts, now I've also switched to English. I still feel like I'm being treated unfairly! It's not my fault that the monastery is just falling apart like that. He didn't stop me from taking the glittering weapon! He said *imitates Astarion's voice* "Don't break your pretty head, there's definitely an exit here." pfff

Yes, and so really, it's his fault. Deep inside himself, I think maybe he prefers that he died instead of you. He was upset but not nearly as upset as I thought he would be. If we had been crushed to death instead of him, then I'm not sure if he would have been able to function anymore, until he remembers Withers and then yells at him to bring you back (or so I tell myself) – in that case maybe he would have been even more angry at you.^^

The shrunken clothes + manipulated bathroom scale would make for a very panicked Astarion. And it would make him forget all about punishing Sceleritas. Two birds with one stone...
Bat-Astarion will start frantically flying laps around the palace to try getting in shape again.^^'

2 plus 2 brain cells is enough sometimes.

During the epilogue party,
Letter from Sarevok: