When you ask what your daddy's name is and your child answers "Gortash"... I think that's the moment when Astarion's face immediately twists into a vicious grimace and he just says "Darling, take the child and go away , what is about to happen should not be seen by any of you".
If he says something like that in a family like yours, where murder, blood and even violence is somewhat commonplace, then he's at a point where he's dropping any facade of dignity and doesn't want us to see him like that.
This should be the moment when Sceleritas also knows that he has overdone it. ^^
Oh my~ I love this. And I can't blame Astarion for reacting like that. I think Gortash's name would be banned from the household from that point on.
I like to choose answers that are not the ones Astarion would expects. I love it when he gets upset for 2 seconds and then everything goes back to normal.
Yes, I think he actually adores it deep down. He likes to be surprised and teased, as he does the same thing too.
I think that a little naughty streak would be something he finds delightful and it matches his mischievous playfulness. You're someone he views as very special and he for sure doesn't think you're boring or ordinary like any normie on Faerun.
I think the Dark Urge is very complex in his personality. He is a private person somewhere, with his own thoughts and these 2 daggers are basically the end of a possible life without the Urge. The Dark Urge must be very educated and smart after we know what he did. He also has a certain emotional intelligence, considering the almost warm loving words he has for Orin.I then see the face of my Dark Urge,
when she kills Orpheus or the Emperor and knows that in a few moments she will be the Absolute und the world will burn
, has an almost painful expression on her face and briefly closes her eyes. I do think that the Dark Urge has few moments in which he thinks about his actions and the consequences.
If you then look at your happy child and you yourself was hardly older at the time, it might make the Dark Urge sad.
You make a beautiful point here, thank you. I think Dark Urge was thoughtful, loyal, and a genius in their own way. Probably why Durge and Gortash admired each other and had that respect for each other. Even though I was playing my own character however I wanted to, the game did a nice job of giving clues and painting a bit of a picture of who Dark Urge really was before – and not just their bloodthirsty nature.
"50 shades of gray" is a story about how a little white vampire had a new snow-white suit made to order (Figaro decorated it with pearls), and the little vampire decided that now it was the right time to explore the mysteries of the castle dungeon and find in its dusty silent depths unknown treasures - a one-eyed skull and a dried mummy of a huge beetle (a gift for Sceleritas).
Ooh... Now this is a story I want to hear.
It's a shame that the scene with the nasty half-naked illithid ( molestation by the Emperor) always comes first. I've had normal interactions with the Emperor, and have no personal dislike for him, but purely aesthetically that scene is just gross. Okay, head with tentacles, that's fine, but at least let him walk around decently dressed, ugh, I have to make an effort to say no to him without insulting him. It would be much better if your beloved's plot scenes were given maximum priority.
Yeah, that scene is unpleasant. The way he's even leaning back suggestively while scantily dressed, lol. When he stands up, I swear he purposely did it in a way where his clothes move so you can see underneath his cloth.
I like being rude to him during this scene, because when you're harsh to him, it makes him completely drop his mask, and shows you what he really thinks about you and why he's acting that way. It also shows you what he did to
I completely missed all of those details during my first playthrough all because I was being too polite to him.
Interesting that Astarion didn't say that line to me, about "no one cared about me like you". I replayed it twice - asking what would have happened if the spawns had died, and saying that I hope Cazador can't control him (understandable, but just wanted to hear the answer). Each time, Astarion says at the end, "And thank you. No matter what happens, it's only because of you that I can stand up to him". That line really warms me up too, and it's great, but where does the line about caring hide? I helped him fool the spawns both times before this. Before that I chose the line, "Get the hell out of here!". I know that if you read Astarion a moral, he'll tell a bitter story about the boy he saved and the year of hunger.
It comes from the first text response you can give right after the battle with them, where you can say to him, "I can't believe how you lied to them..." and then choose the "Do you have sympathy for..."
I believe it comes up as a response if you either choose deception or persuasion dialogue responses when they first appeared.
Here is a clip I put together of his responses from my gameplay recording:
I love how he looks when he says "So we'll both be safe, forever. For good." His face looks so determined and strong-willed, and I can see he's very serious about it.
A bit off topic, but in regards to Minthara's little comment there – Does anyone know why or how the vampire spawn were able to enter the camp without an invitation?? I'm not sure if it was ever explained. Unless it's got something to do with Cazador trickery.
Also... what are these "remains" that Minthara speaks of? They all just poofed away... lol.
These many people are so eager to paint him as a "terrible partner" that they explicitly insist on choosing the "right" lines for their story. Just look closely at those lines. Tav comes off in them as someone whose lack of intelligence is compensated for except by a heightened level of bitchiness. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, the roleplay can be whatever the player likes, as long as it's an option in the game. But it's hard to call Astarion's reaction to it horrible. It's adequate to the situation (except he goes to screaming because he's in pain). How many twists in the head is Tav, who agreed to a ritual that binds forever, and... not even a year later starts throwing tantrums and wanting to break up? The bride ritual can't be broken, a vampire can kill his bride, though it will hurt him badly, but not break it.
I agree. It's fine for those who enjoy roleplaying it that way, but that doesn't prove that AA doesn't love your Tav/Durge. Those are just opinions. I guess people can twist context clues to suit their needs. But you can easily do a whole playthrough without ever having him yell at you nor showing any displeasure towards you. You make a wonderful point: Of course if you say hurtful things to him, he's going to be angry. Especially when you consider that he does love you, and if you break his heart, he will be upset and will lash out (and possibly tries to convince himself of what he's saying, too). I can just imagine how disappointed he would be if you treated him that way.
I absolutely love how they added the vampire bride lore into it. They made it subtle enough, but if you follow the hints, it makes it clear what he did.
And you said it very well, that it's a very deep love going into eternity. It's too deep a love to be considered "the norm". "The norm" is something average, ordinary, not outstanding. Astarion won't stop caring about that. He gets sad when you go off to talk to the others at the party in the epilogue, promises to keep an eye on you, and makes that face:
Oh, AA at the epilogue party is my fav. <3 Such great (and even some funny) pieces of dialogue. I even liked the 'bad' response because it wasn't really bad. It just showed me how he doesn't want to lose you and how he tries to spoil you and give you the world.
Hehe, the way he says he's always watching.
It made me laugh when I first heard it because I wasn't expecting it, but damn I loved that. It can be interpreted in a couple of different ways, but I like the idea that my character always has Astarion there to watch over you, making sure you don't wander off and hurt yourself (the scene where you recklessly stick your hand into the wall at Moonrise Towers comes to mind, lol), and making sure no one harms you. The writing here was done well and I thought it was kind of tongue-in-cheek.
I agree with you! AA doesn't see your partnership as ordinary. He wants something that surpasses ordinary. It makes me think of Spawn's only response when you ask him what he thinks of your relationship ("Oh, nothing special..."). I know it's not meant to be taken that seriously, because he follows it up with something sweet, but I can't help but think there's something underneath his words.
P.S. I was going to reply in the "Funniest thing you've found" thread, but when I wrote a reply I saw that we were already being banished from there, so I'm moving this post here (it's mostly about Astarion, after all).
Lol, I saw that too..
Yeah, you have to ally yourself with him to do that. I wonder if it's somehow possible to combine saving Will's father and an alliance with Gortash, or are they basically mutually exclusive? Haha, I really liked his reaction! He did the right thing, because these heroes are used to the fact that no one will fight back, well done!
I am looking forward to testing all of this out, maybe in the next playthrough.^^ Yes, I really like how it gave Gortash a bit more bite to his personality, lol.
There are some very good builds for Astarion. As AA he has an additional +1d10 necrotic Dmg with each attack, which makes him very powerful. Personally, I really like him as a gloomstalker. I personally enjoy playing the bard and I really like the bardadin (as Dark Urge "Hello Oathbreaker my friend" *wave*
). The protector build would go well with Astarion ,for example, if you play with two people in melee. As long as I have a little less AC than Astarion, they would basically attack me and as soon as they attack me, it triggers a reaction from Astarion. I could just as easily imagine him in an Assassin Rogue/Shadow Monk build, where he would be like my deadly lover who walks in my shadow. *meow*
Love your videos!! <3 What a delicious thought...
I def want to have Astarion as monk next time.
Sorry for all this text - I wanted to make sure I didn't forget to respond to anything.
