Originally Posted by jinetemoranco
I'm in more of a middle ground. I don't think playersexuality is inherently a bad thing and think it's a better system for these games than set sexuality romances unless that sexuality is important to their story (Think Dorian Pavus), but I also don't think playersexuality counts as representation, although I'm sure for a lot of LGBT people it's nice to be able to romance the companion they like when playing as the same sex. I think I've gotten used to it so I'm neutral about it.

I remember this article I read years ago about BG3 EA, and find I agree with it in that they could've done more to turn these from playersexuality to actual all coincidently pan characters.
https://gaymingmag.com/2021/03/baldurs-gate-3-really-should-just-make-everyone-bisexual/

I will also say I disagree for the most part about the LGBT characters in BG3 being cringe. I thought Aylin and Isobel were adorable. Lakrissa and Alfira have some sort of thing implied and I also think it's handled well even though I quite dislike Alfira. Those gnomes in Grymforge are there and can't really care either way.
The exception is Nocturne, I do think she's written with the subtlety of an elephant in a tea shop. Here's where I think her identity shouldn't be the sole feature of her character. She's The Trans Character Who Is Trans and Transitioned Because She Is Trans, and I find that really clunky. I suppose respectful trans characters aren't common in videogames so you've gotta start somewhere real basic, but damn, is it just the stereotypical stuff all concentrated into a single character. I actually think whatever metaphor you can read into Shadowheart's "deadname" is miles ahead of Nocturne's representation.
Thats how I think they want to do it in Veilguard? or however its called now. Everyone is officially bi.
If they really do it remains to be seen. Its after all from EA and design by marketing.

I do not find "lgbtq" characters in BG3 cringe in general, but Aylin and Isobel specifically. Mainly because you have this big and important moment of Shadowheart breaking with Shar and instead of a followup you get a "Wait! I first need to have lesbian sex with my lesbian girlfriend because we are lesbians!!!!" moment which to me feels very forced and unnatural as the way its presented looked to me that Larian absolutely wanted to make sure that everyone knows that they are a lesbian couple and thus resorted to a very over the top dialogue.

Anevia and Irabeth (WotR) were handled much better imo and should have gotten the award instead, although I am sure some people will criticise the way Anevia realized she was transgender.

Last edited by Ixal; 05/07/24 11:01 AM.