Originally Posted by Marielle
But if Ulma was a hag, it wouldn't be her people. She would be just as much of a monster to the Gur and would likely deceive them and use them for her own ends, at least it seems that way to me.

I didn't mean that that line is a remnant from earlier development, but rather, that it seems to be his only acknowledgement of having done something wrong to the Gur other than kidnapping their children under Cazador's orders. I still think the current game heavily implies he did something very bigoted to the Gur when he was alive, it's just dropped and never acknowledged again.

I also don't know for a fact that Maiden Fel was a hag- I probably considered it, but I don't think we had proof back then to conclude that. All we know is that dead Gandrel described her as "Reason even monsters have nightmares" "Dread creature, but not the one I hunt" and as a "Wise woman with questions". The fact that she wants Astarion unblemished reinforced my idea at the time that she had business with him, from way back when.


Interestingly, I just opened the full release datamines for this scene- and Gandrel still refers to her as a "dread creature" and, obviously, as a "wise woman with questions" (other lines have been changed- She's now referred as Ulma, the leader of his tribe, and he talks about the children)
Him being returned unblemished has been substituted for the children line, but the flag still refers to it as such- which makes me wonder if it was the original intended plotline or more what I had in mind during EA?
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(I just realised I was calling her Madame Fel when she's Maiden Fel- my bad!)

(BTW guys, I don't like being a killjoy, but may I suggest that we move discussions about his romance path to the other Astarion romance thread?)