Originally Posted by jinetemoranco
[i]"I was attacked. A gang of vagrants, a tribe of wandering 'Gur', took issue with a ruling I'd made.
They beat me to death's door when Cazador appeared. He chased them off and offered to save me. To give me eternal life."

Yes, I had those lines. After that I decided that Astarion passed judgment on some of them, and then already visited a more dangerous area, where they attacked him to avenge their own. That's basically how I perceived the story during the first playthrough. I could assume that Astarion gave an unfair judgment, for example, by not giving due consideration to “all sorts of scum”. When I agreed to help the Tieflings, he scolded because we were “going to help the scum” (not quoted verbatim, no close save). Yes, it was exactly those words of Astarion that created the perception of the Gur as traveling bandits (who probably take “orders” for assassinations, kidnappings, etc). Until the conversation with Gandrel's corpse when he utters the line, “He knows where our children are”, I perceived Gandrel as a mercenary hired by Cazador to retrieve or kill Astarion. The fact that the Gur are monster hunters finally becomes clear only in Act 3.

Originally Posted by jinetemoranco
Going through these lines reminded me of another contradiction, albeit smaller than others- or maybe I misunderstood. Both in EA and the current game Astarion can talk about Cazador inviting him to dine with him, serving him a putrid rat. I assumed that he'd be in the room where Cazador is feeding. But then in Act 3 Ulma assumes -and is never corrected- that Astarion has never seen Cazador feed from his victims.

When does Astarion say this? I've heard of it but I didn't have it in the game, can you tell me in which dialog this line is in? I remember Ulma's lines - it's when talking to her in the gur camp.


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