Originally Posted by Marielle
What great dialog... I've never seen it before. Why, for the sake of getting it, do you have to necessarily start a relationship with Karlach, only to dump her for this dialog? It's so hard and unpleasant to flirt with someone other than Astarion, and I really don't want to do it. How I wish I could have these extra dialogs without any relationship with others, especially since if you take out the line about Karlach, his other lines would be perfect for talking to him about relationships, for example. “Still, if you insist on adoring me, then who am I to stop you?” - how this line would be great for a situation where Tav/Du, for example, rejects someone's advances, Astarion notices it, asks a question and you could say something like “I don't need anyone but you”. That dialog is something I'd really like to see in my game. Without Karlach. Sure, when you pick Astarion and get great dialog, that's great. But when you pick Astarion a priori, and are loyal to him from start to finish, you get... Nothing. That's not fair. Especially since the dialog is already written, they could have added it, just with some minor changes.
(...)Unfortunately, so much attention is paid to all these “love triangles” that they completely did not think about those players who love only one companion, and do not want to participate in this “geometry”.
Very much in agreement with this. I would have really appreciated if we were rewarded with a special dialogue or scene with him to acknowledge that we never started relationships with any other character, nor slept/flirted with anyone else. That same thought has crossed my mind more than once while playing the game. It almost feels like you're expected to experiment and flirt around, and you get some extra dialogues that way, but there's little to no reactivity if you remain faithful to your chosen partner from the beginning. Especially when it comes to Astarion, who is already a bit fragile and tentative when it comes to relationships, due to his past (I believe someone mentioned that Shadowheart even acknowledges this if you choose him over her in a love triangle early on). I just didn't want to flirt with other characters once I've decided on who I wanted to romance in the game.

Originally Posted by Marielle
Oh, maybe with the new modding tools after patch 7, Astarion can add Will's dance, that would be so cool!
This looks so nice - I think it fits really well to Astarion. He's probably learned a lot of ballroom style dances throughout his life.^^ He would have a lot to teach my Durge about this elegant lifestyle.

Originally Posted by Marielle
"All of this would be nothing without you.” - truth. It's like a title, or like an epigraph for the whole Astarion romance. And that to live one without the other would be pure agony. I've always been annoyed by this: “When you ask for freedom, Astarion will blah, blah, blah...” What, in the name of all the devils of hell, freedom? It's like: “When your character jumps from the highest roof upside down...” In the case of the roof, at least it won't hurt as much. They're happy together and they're both watching out for each other. <3
I love the epilogue dialogue with AA. Even the "Freedom" dialogue doesn't bother me. All I see is that he says he wants me to live the very best life (what he thinks is the best life). The only thing I'm still missing is being able to kiss him there. We should be able to ask for a kiss and/or hug from him if he's our partner, like you can with the other romanced companions. I can even hug Shadowheart and Halsin in the epilogue as just friends. By the time we get here, it has been a long time since we're able to share affection with our partner imo. As you've mentioned, they could simply use an older kiss animation here so no extra work would be required. It shouldn't be hard to add it, and it seems unfair for him to be the only one that doesn't have that option.

Originally Posted by Marielle
We have nothing at all to owe anyone except our loved ones, and “you should feel guilty” - in real life these are the words of manipulators, something you should never fall for. “If you don't want to see my middle finger, put away your index finger” is a good saying to that effect. Of course, the game has nothing to do with reality, that's just me for the sake of example. I completely agree with you, and the only real guilt I will feel is if Astarion is forever suffering for being a spawn forever. If you purposely fail this manipulative persuasion check, which is needed to refuse the ritual, Astarion will tell you how he feels about it. Too bad I couldn't find a video on the subject, you could try it in game if you have a close save. And look at the look on his face during the ritual rejection scene.

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He just looks plain exhausted and depressed in this scene. Even without the moment where he cries horribly painfully and bitterly. If you watch that scene frame by frame, honestly, it's far preferable for the Astarion-loving DU/Tav to unpack their BFG (“big f**king gun”, and every mighty hero has one, hehe ;)) and deal with any accusers with it (Gur is a great excuse to do that and appreciate the Ascendant's Bite). Because we can do that together with him...

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And later like this...

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The romance with UA in general feels more like some kind of friendship than true love.
Thank you for sharing these screenshots, the stark change in his emotion is very clear to see here. It's wonderful to see him so ecstatic and that sense of relief he feels there must be incredible. Finally free from that eternal hunger and having a chance to live again while still keeping his immortality. <3
There is a lot of misinformation that gets spread carelessly by people who don't like (or misunderstand) his ascension path. It is upsetting because more people will see those things and assume them to be true. For example, show me where he says he resents you for "making" him ascend?
At no point do we force him to ascend, first of all. He always wants to do it, and when the time comes, he still wants to do it and he asks us for help. But he is still the one who decides on it and does it on his own.

One of my favorite expressions of his. I see an exultant Astarion who has gotten his revenge, feels powerful, and gained his freedom. Where's the resentment?

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Originally Posted by Marielle
What a cutie... I would love to hand him a finger. And give him a kiss on the forehead while he bites... <3

"She'll definitely come back, my little bloodthirsty master."

"Definitely Sceleritas, I hypnotized her with my gaze and manipulated her thoughts. When she comes back, she should bring me blood candies. I paid close attention when Dad showed me what to do. Nothing can go wrong. " The little bat smiles crookedly and shows his tiny vampire teeth.
He's so cute and I love how confident he already is in his abilities as his teeny-tiny self.^^

Originally Posted by Marielle
Gold issue of Baldur's Mouth Gazette:
This is brilliant, what a gorgeous shot of him, and perfectly rendered. <3 I love his more serious and contemplative expression here.