Originally Posted by Taril
Originally Posted by fylimar
Just assuming, you are right (I free him, when the dealers are dealt with normally and he tells me a whoel different story about finding the entrance to teh Underdark), it just would show even more, he is pretty incompetent. "Yeah, I just stay prisoner, until someone, who might never come, deals with those pesky leaders." He had no way to know, that Tav/Durge would come in with the tadpole gang to help him out with this.

*Sigh*

And AGAIN I'll mention, if you go with Minthara to attack the Grove, he also will free himself, take out Dror Ragzlin and Priestess Gut and return to the Grove.

Meaning he capitalizes on their forces massing outside the Grove (Thus not being in the Goblin Camp) to take out their leaders.

Showing that he's waiting for an opportunity to strike, whatever it may be. Whether it's someone coming in and attacking or some mobilization of troops.

The only fault with this scenario is that he arrives AFTER the battle for the Grove is over, so he doesn't protect the Grove when he capitalizes on the lack of force in the camp. But it's not as if he has much in the way of options. Especially since as long as the leaders exist, attacks on the Grove won't stop. So it doesn't matter if he's there to stop 1 attack, if he doesn't take out the leaders there'll just be more and more.

Also, "Warn everyone"? Warn everyone of what? They ALREADY know about the Goblins, that's literally the reason why Kagha is doing the Rite of Thorns and why the Tieflings are seeking refuge...

They know about goblins roaming the area, they don't know about how big the cult is, or the leaders. And even if he frees himself and waits until you leave with Minthara and teh forces, it is still a stupid plan. He could have been killed beforehand. He is entirely relying on Tav to free him or thin out the forces however.
I get, that you like the character, but he really is not as clever as you make him out to be per proof from the game. And anyway this thread wasn't supposed to be about Halsin alone, tehre are different points, so maybe just let's agree to disagree here and move on. I don't want to destroy your headcanon of wise and clever Halsin, if that is how you see it.



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I do agree about not being able to get Mizora to help you against Raphael. I don't think, she has any form of loyality for her. He might reside in Avernus, but seems to be not tied in any form to Zariel.

And yes, not being able to adress, what that steelwatcher said about Karlachs heart is sad. Even if you only have an additional dialogue with the Gondians and maybe at the reunite party a letter, that they are close to fixing Karlachs heart. It would have been nice.


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