Originally Posted by Ametris
Originally Posted by Elly
In that same epilogue scene, Tav can also try to leave him, be told they can't ever leave, and walk out of the room with a heartbroken expression.

There are a ton of opportunities to break up with him and kill him. You can go with Karlach and Astarion won't stop you. It seems to me that if Tav stayed with him despite everything, at that point he simply doesn't take Tav seriously anymore and thinks they're just trolling him. If you go for the evil ending, Tav doesn't use mind control on him anymore, further showcasing a point that if you go beyond a certain point the game assumes that you do want to stay with him. There are no options to express your misery to the other companions during the epilogue party and ask them for help. Tav and Astarion can only bicker like a wedded couple.

If the game just assumed Tav wants to stay with him, why would the breakup option even be there? You can leave Spawn Astarion in this scene.
I also don't see asking for freedom and being told you can't have it as simple bickering, so I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

Originally Posted by Ametris
Originally Posted by Elly
If Tav's expressions will depend on our choices, nobody would have to feel that way after Patch 7.

I doubt they're gonna bother to include that.

Why not? The same thing could have been said about players' requests for happy faces after Patch 6. The fact that they're now changing the expressions at all proves that they care about player agency. And it would be really weird to fix an issue with player agency by taking it away in the other direction, in my opinion, especially when that other direction was originally the only one.