Originally Posted by Mordred92
Sorry but from what you say, then the new TAV expressions shouldn't be a problem. If you've played since patch 1 with a certain story and it worked fine even with a happy TAV during kisses, I don't see why it can't work with the new expressions. I understand that for you, for your narrative, the current expressions work better, but that even when the TAV was happy and the kisses were normal, your story still worked.
If the TAV is a little happy during kisses, it doesn't contradict the ending where AA prevents them from leaving him, in my opinion. A TAV could be unaware of the consequences of their choices, so they are happy, until when, at the end, they discover that they have no way to escape from AA. But this is my point of view, a way to interpret the new expressions and make them coexist with that ending
As some have already said and pointed out, with the introduction of the new patch there will be support for mods for both PC and consoles. Eventually, in case Larian is unable to fulfill this kind of request, you can take advantage of existing mods that change the TAV's expressions.

That wasn't what I meant. It's been possible, and reflected in the dialogue options you can choose, for Tav to be unhappy/uncertain/afraid but stay in the relationship since Patch 1. Patch 6 added to that. The new Patch 7 expressions would add to the narrative of a Tav who is completely happy with everything instead. I don't think either of these should be the only option, which is why I am asking to make the original faces optional instead of completely replacing them.
I don't want to rely on mods for this either, as mods have no influence on what the game itself implies.

Originally Posted by Ametris
Originally Posted by Elly
If the game just assumed Tav wants to stay with him, why would the breakup option even be there? You can leave Spawn Astarion in this scene.
I also don't see asking for freedom and being told you can't have it as simple bickering, so I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

To show there are consequences to your decisions and so you can see what would happen if you kept going in that direction and then tried to go back on your word last minute. Every other romance has a breakup possibility there, so they put it in for formality's sake too. To me it's the same option like the one where you sign a deal with Raphael, don't steal the contract, and expect to leave the House of Hope alive when he confronts you.

I don't disagree with that. What I disagree with is that it means he assumes Tav is joking, or that it makes Tav continuously asking for their freedom wedded bickering. (You can of course see it like that, but it's also possible to see it as a much more serious situation.)


Originally Posted by Ametris
They never bothered to allow us to kiss AA in the epilogue, despite the fact that he's the only LI who doesn't have a romantic interaction. It was the biggest complaint after patch 5 was released. It took them half a year to change these expressions after countless requests and a magazine article describing the problem. They are also moving away from the game. Realistically, I expect this to be the last update when it comes to Astarion.

That's why we're making this request now, in hopes that it will still be heard. It really wouldn't feel great to lose our entire story to a change like this a year after release. (I know people who wanted their Tav to look happy felt the same way after Patch 6. It was reasonable for them to ask for these changes. I think it is equally reasonable for others to ask for their player agency to be valued now.)