Originally Posted by Elly
Originally Posted by Ametris
Him asking you to kneel and that insight check are also clearly indicating you're in for some kinky play.

Except not necessarily. It's possible to fail that insight check, and to refuse at first, after which the only way to continue the relationship is to choose the option "Give in and kneel". (Tav's face in this scene looks confused, uncertain and slightly upset too. They're not smirking or grinning like they would be in the new animations.)

Even if you fail that check, the fact you have to kneel is already suggesting he wants that kind of dynamic. There's also a scene with Abdirak and his romantic lines where he enjoyes seeing Tav bound. There's also a special scene with Durge where he's enjoying tying them up. I missed some of these scenes, but I could still see the writing on the wall.

Originally Posted by Elly
Originally Posted by Ametris
Originally Posted by jinetemoranco
@Ametris you'll find that, while yes, you asked for a kiss, also getting grabbed by the throat is a pretty big extra where there might be a dissonance in the expression with the action being performed on the character. It's not the same as, say, Wyll doing a little dance before kissing you. It evokes certain aggressive imagery, that while okay if it's been more thoroughly negotiated, can still be disturbing. I don't disagree that it reflects AA's personality. As I mentioned, I wasn't looking into a discussion for why my example is a perfect metaphor: I was trying to get across why certain expressions to certain actions can still be jarring.

He also grabs Tav in the turning scene when you choose rough play. It's nothing new.

But Tav gets the same kisses regardless of the option they chose. It would be new to a Tav who chose "Be gentle, if you can", making the enthusiastic reactions even more out of character for some players' characters.

Originally Posted by jinetemoranco
@Ametris Yes, and and to get that scene you had to say "Oh, come on, let it hurt.", very different from just asking for a kiss. Said scene also has way milder expressions, which might be a bit inadequate considering Tav is 100% into it and consenting to it, but I find them less goofy than the new face for the throat grab.

Hence why me and other users have been asking to be able to choose rough and gentle kisses to fit two kinds of d/s dynamic that were introduced in the turning scene.