Originally Posted by Yharmeru
The bottom line is the kisses he offers are far from vanilla and we should have the option to react accordingly based on whether those kisses exceed what ours Tav’s would be comfortable with. I know mine would be flat out uncomfortable with them and would either respond with fear, anger, or annoyance he made them kiss him that way.

"He *made* them kiss"? How do you mean this? Actually Astarion does not *make* them kiss, they are *both* consenting and enjoying. Tav wants it the same way as Astarion. Or is there not enough consent visible in the scene between the two?
Literally, you are asking to turn a sensual and consensual D/s dynamic kiss into the opposite and into something unsafe, just because it is not "vanilla" enough.
Have you thought about, that this would be a disservice and disrespectful toward the BDSM and kink community? In your OP, you said, another, non-"bdsmy" kiss would be okay, so how about to ask for a consensual Vanilla Kiss as a toggle, and we could all play without heavy and sensitive scenes, when asking the romance partner for a kiss?

Originally Posted by Sereda2
I don't feel changing the expressions to make them more positive would be a loss of player agency because the kisses are something the player has to request not an action that Astarion initiates and I think that is a very important distinction.

Originally Posted by Every
Originally Posted by Sereda2
I don't agree with leaving the original Patch 6 expressions in-game as an option because I feel they are too close to depicting assault and intimate partner violence for a game of this rating.

++++++ Totally agree with this.

Well said, I agree with that.


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