Originally Posted by Zayir
Originally Posted by KiraMira
@neprostoman I didn't read Zayir's reply as an attack at all. I know it is a sensitive topic that is easy to misunderstand and from misunderstanding comes hate. Please, lets stop.

Originally Posted by neprostoman
Originally Posted by KiraMira
@neprostoman I didn't read Zayir's reply as an attack at all. I know it is a sensitive topic that is easy to misunderstand and from misunderstanding comes hate. Please, lets stop.

I also didn't read it as an attack, it was just worded with a certain level ambiguity and I wanted to divert the conversation in a way that would be more constructive.

Thank you. If Fylimar misunderstood my approach, which I actually wanted to give in a good intention, I am deeply sorry. This is a sensitive topic and we shouldn't discuss patch 6 without being affected by it ourselves and put it in a row with abdirak (which is a very consensual scene), because that patch affected a lot of people who are reading here. They will feel hurt and belittled by this, even if it was not the intention. Also putting Abdirak and patch 6 in a row, could also be seen as disrespectful toward the BDSM community, when a consensual and safe scene (Abdirak) and the (non-consent) of patch 6 (SV, sadistic personality disorder) are lumped together. That's why I kindly asked not to do this.
Ok, from the answers here, I opened your messages again and want to say thank you for the apology.
I actually agree with you about Abdirak, I love the character and think he is totally about consent. His writer confirmed it actually . He even treats an Ilmateri with respect ( they and Loviatans hate each other as much as Sharrans and Delunites). He is one of the better representations of BDSM in modern media for sure. I was just listing up stuff, that came to mind and in the very beginning, back in 2020, when I joined early access, there were discussions, because people feared, he would attack them, if they say no and thus outright killed the poor guy. So I don't agree with Abdirak being problematic, I just wanted to include it for the sake of trying to get all topics covered ( minus the racist, sexist and homophobic ones of course). I did forgot the whole Halsin debate, but we don't need to warm anything up again.

So I hope we can act normally again, I didn't want to disrespect you and am sorry, if you understood it that way.


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