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Disclaimer: Touches upon sensitive subjects, hidden behind spoilers.

One of the things I feel is missing in the game is the possibility for Tav and their partners who are open to sharing intimacy with others to do so in a different enviroment and context than indulging in sex-commerce.

For personal reasons the transactional nature when Tav and their partner enjoy the drow twins does not sit well with me. No matter how much the interaction with the sex-workers tries to convince me that they are enthusiastic, I will always interpret it as performative, because that is how the sex-industry works. Every customer who experience the services of a sex-worker will always be made to feel that they are special and different. It's part of the sell and you cannot take what they say as face value because their intentions are always for you to part with your gold and come back for more. Consent that comes with a monetary transaction in the context of a business that sells sexual services is not, and never will be, the same as enthusiastic consent.

Before anyone jumps on me that I want to remove or limit any form of content. I don't, I am fine with it being in the game and I have no problem that this is something other players want to experience and enjoy, they are entitled to their own interpretation and enjoyment. I can just skip it, it doesn't take much skill to press the right button to politely decline.

But for me, I would have liked if there was a possibility for Tav and their partner(s) to find some person or a cute swinger couple at one of the many taverns or other locations in Baldur's Gate, that would be open to being invited into their bed. Something which can portray sex-positive and intimacy in non-monogamous relationships in a different context than sex-commerce. I think the portrayal of polyamorous and non-mongamous intimacy also deserves to be associate with a positive and fully consensual context.

Please don't derail the topic with discussions about characters or their writing, it is not relevant to the discussion. The suggestion is only about giving players who want to share intimacy with their romantic partners with others, some other venue and persons than a brothel and sex-workers to do so.

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If you talk to the drow twins, they will say, that they are not unhappy, since the working conditions are great, but that they dream of leaving the city and settle down on a farm or so.
A sex worker normally does not do the line if work for kinks and fun, but to get food on the table. From what the twins say it's the same with them. The brother could have the added twist if being a Loviatan trying to get new converts, given he wears a Loviatan attire ( same as Abdirak), but it could also just be a reuse of assets

They are actually quite nice to talk to.
I never did the orgy scene with them, but I would feel awkward for it.

There are a lot of couples we met along the road, that we are already friends with, so I guess, that would feel more fitting for a poly relationship, if one want to play that.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
If you talk to the drow twins, they will say, that they are not unhappy, since the working conditions are great, but that they dream of leaving the city and settle down on a farm or so.

Yes, but that is a very typical thing for a sex workers to present. Though drow and the setting of Faerûn does have a different mindset around sex than our world, I can't help but subconcisously interpret things through the lens of the real world sex-inudstry where it is very much a part of the performance act of sex workers to convince their customer to abandon any reservations or inhibitions they may have towards the situation. It is just the same as a car-salesman or realtor, the second you begin interacting their goal is to keep you engaged and make you comfortable until you eventually sign the deal and they will say whatever they think you want to hear in order to get there.
But it's not really about whether they are happy or not with the arrangement, it is simply that it is not the same as enthusiastic consent. For the sake of representation of polyamory, I would prefer to have an option to have a shared intimate experience between Tav, their partner(s) and others that takes place in a different context as well.

Originally Posted by fylimar
There are a lot of couples we met along the road, that we are already friends with, so I guess, that would feel more fitting for a poly relationship, if one want to play that.

I can already hear the enthusiastic shouts for Alfira and Lakrissa, but imo they wouldn't really fit and it would just feel like fan service and pandering to the straight male gaze.

Abdirak though, would be an awesome partner to enthusiastically join Tav and their partner(s), with a little blessing as an added bonus biggrin

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Agree. Promoting that the dynamic was in the game only to have us find out we got less than a handful of let's say unfortunate stereotypes is not great. It would be great if they built on what is otherwise a good idea with better representation.

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